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ASBILL/ASBELL Y-DNA Project Update : 02 - 28 - 2006
Posted by: William Harvey (ID *****5156) Date: February 28, 2006 at 12:05:36
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Hello, fellow Asbill/Asbell researchers,

We now have a total of sixteen participants; one new member has just recently requested a 12 marker test; three members have tested at the 12 marker level: one member has tested at 25 markers; and eleven members have tested to the 37 marker level.

IDENTIFIED FAMILY GROUPS

We have identified six distinctly differing "ASBILL/ASBELL et al" family groups. Each group is comprised of at least two matching haplotypes as follows :

Four separate family groups are predicted as being in the "R1b" Haplogroup as well as one testee who does not match with any of the other family groups.

A family group of two test members is predicted to be in the "R1a" Haplogroup classification.

A family group of two test members is predicted to be in the "G2" Haplogroup category.

RESEARCH DISCUSSION

At this point we have three ASBILLs, one ASBILLE, one AZBILL, seven ASBELLs, one ASBEL, two AZBELLs and one ASBYLL - we would like to have many more join this intriguing project.

Participants thus far are from Arkansas, California, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Oklahoma, Mississippi, Pennsylvania, and Texas.

It does appear that many of this surname, and its variants, have male root-origins that do not spring from the single immigrant Martin Asbell line as has been premised by standard genealogical research over the past 100 years or so.

Much of this confused research has been caused by researchers following the erroneous information found in the infamous George Bennett "ASBELL book".

There is a lot less near-term family-group relatedness among the Asbill/Asbell lines than has been assumed by researchers in the past. In this regard the newly developed Y-DNA evidence is quite solid.

Current thought is that, possibly, several instances occurred whereby the Asbill/Asbell name was passed down from Asbill women to their out-of wedlock children and their sons continued the family name onward; this would mean that the maternal inheritance could be solidly Asbill but would not hold true for the male Y inheritors. And, of course, there is always the possibility of undocumented adoptions having occurred.

GROUP RESULTS SUMMARY

GROUP #5 appears to be the only line that has a strong tie to the Martin Asbell line - this primarily through Delmar Asbill's strong research efforts. More members of this lineage are needed badly in order to confirm which of the many other purported Asbill branches truly do connect.

The most significant recent progress has been made by GROUP #4 headed up by Bruce Morgan. With the help of volunteer testees he has connected Y-DNA science with documented paper trails of four male descendants of three sons of a common Asbell father. This line is centered in Ohio, Illinois, Indiana and Iowa. The ancestral line appears to point towards Pennsylvania/NewYork with origin possibly in Ireland.

This is a substantial advance for this specific group because it has created an "ancestral haplotype" pattern that will accurately help to identify future testees as belonging to this unique Asbill line whether they are descended from older ancestral generations or are from susequent descendant generations. There is no longer the necessity to follow the trail from most recent knowledge through step-by-step events back into the past to find relatedness. Of course the paper trail of documentation still needs to be filled out to determine exactly WHERE and BY WHOM the relatedness connection is made. Good work, Bruce and team!

GROUP #1 has established a 50% probability of common ancestry within 8 generations and a 90% probability of connecting within 16 generations. These fellows have a common history only inasmuch as they both have roots in the Ukraine with immigration to the US taking place within the
past 150 years or so. They were unaware of each other prior to the testing.

GROUP #6 is the most recent to make a Y-DNA connection. One testee of this two member group has 37 marker test results and the other has done 12 markers which match exactly with the 1st 12 of the full test. There was suspected relationship between these fellows before the Y-DNA
confirmed such. Now they know for sure they have a common ancestor and are no longer confused by the many fabricated connections found in our Asbell genealogical world.

GROUPS #2 & #3 are both two member groups which have proven relationship within their respective groups. They are "not" related to "any" of the other five groups within the Asbell Project. Their Y-line roots undoubtedly will be found elsewhere, although, as previously pointed out, there may be full connections to the Asbill/Asbell lines through female ties.

IN CLOSING

Please remember, your contacts with and encouragement of prospective ASBILL/ASBELL participants is our STRONGEST recruiting tool. Please use this tool diligently and often!

You may track the test results progress on the public group website provided by FTDNA by clicking on :

http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Asbill/

Please contact either myself or Delmar Asbill with any questions you may have about the Y-DNA testing situation or about DNA concerns in general. We will make every attempt to provide answers.

Bill Harvey wlh@foothill.net
ASBILL FTDNA Surname Group Co-adminstrator

Delmar Asbill <ASBILL@nsuok.edu>
ASBILL FTDNA Surname Group Administrator


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