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Posted by: Joanna Ashmun Date: October 23, 2000 at 10:11:33
In Reply to: Re: ROBERT ASHMAN IN PHILADELPHIA 1664 by Thomas A. Murray of 229

Thomas Murray wrote:

>My understanding is that Thomas Jaycocks referred to Robert Ashman as his brother-in-law

This is the 4 Dec 1663 deed to Caleb Carman. As you've pointed out, the deed is ambiguous about the brother-in-law relationship.

>then someone decided that Thomas had married an Armitage, so Robert's wife was an Armitage

Torrey's New England Marriages has this, apparently based on another ambiguous document, Robert's deposition in a dispute between Thomas Armitage and his son-in-law James Pine.

>This was at and it quotes from a "Keeler-Wood
>Genealogy" pp. 62-3.

This same excerpt is at Long Island Genealogy <>, where it's followed by a long Flewelling gedcom. I asked the LI Genealogy guy where this gedcom came from, and he said he didn't remember where he got it. I checked around and I think the "Keeler-Wood genealogy" referred to is Ancestors of Evelyn Wood Keeler, wife of Willard Underhill Taylor, compiled for their children, Mary Morgan Taylor, Willard Underhill Taylor, Jr. [and] Annette Evelyn Taylor, by Josephine C. Frost (Mrs. Samuel Knapp Frost) (1939).


Thanks for the reference to this article.

>The grant was 1 JAN 1667, but it is noted that Caleb Carmen disposed of his land in Hempstead in 1663. This
>coincides with Robert Ashman doing much the same about 1664, that is why it is assumed that they went to
>Passayunk about that time. Until now, it had been thought that Robert went directly to Jamaica, Long Island.

Incorporated Districts, Boroughs, and Townships in the County of Philadelphia, 1854, by Rudolph J. Walther <>, gives the date of the Passyunk grant as 1 Jan 1667/68.

Peter Rose, History of Long Island from its Earliest Settlement to the Present Time, (1902), lists Caleb Carman, Robert Ashman, and Thomas Wellin as freeholders at Jamaica in 1660.

>Notes with it indicate she married 15MAY1669 Lawrence Petersson Cock (b. 21MAR1646 New Sweden [i.e., in what
>became Pennsylvania] and that Martha was b. AUG1650 and d. after 1724.

I've seen these dates for Martha on the Web and in AF, but I've never a source for them. <> has a series of excellent articles on New Sweden families by Peter Stebbins Craig.



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