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Re: Data re my Bates line
Posted by: Jane Curci (ID *****5058) Date: August 28, 2011 at 23:08:21
In Reply to: Data re my Bates line by Ruby Bates Womack of 8068

I am not related, just sharing

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:1817335&id=I86040728
•ID: I86040728
•Name: John BATES
•Given Name: John
•Surname: Bates
•Sex: M
•Birth: in England


Marriage 1 Rebecca UNKNOWN b: in England
•Note: _STATMARRIED
Children
1. Allen BATES b: 27 Oct 1803 in South Carolina
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http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:1817335&id=I86040726
•ID: I86040726
•Name: Allen BATES
•Given Name: Allen
•Surname: Bates
•Sex: M
•Birth: 27 Oct 1803 in South Carolina
•Death: 26 Jun 1899 in Pike Co. Al.

Father: John BATES b: in England
Mother: Rebecca UNKNOWN b: in England

Marriage 1 Leticia WHITE b: 12 Mar 1811 in Georgia
•Note: _STATMARRIED
Children
1. James BATES b: 5 Mar 1831 in Dekalb Co. Georgia

1850 United States Federal Census
about Allen Bates Name: Allen Bates
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1802
Birth Place: South Carolina
Gender: Male
Home in 1850 (City,County,State): Pike, Alabama
Family Number: 1835
Household Members: Name Age
Allen Bates 48
Luticins Bates 41
Marion Bates 21
James Bates 19

1870 United States Federal Census
about Allen Bates Name: Allen Bates
Birth Year: abt 1804
Age in 1870: 66
Birthplace: South Carolina
Home in 1870: Beat 12, Pike, Alabama
Race: White
Gender: Male
Value of real estate: View image
Household Members: Name Age
Allen Bates 66
Luticia Bates 60
Elizabeth Bates 23
Allen Bates 22
Alexander Bates 18
Nancy Bates 15

1880 United States Federal Census
about Allen Bates Name: Allen Bates
Home in 1880: Pleasant Hill, Pike, Alabama
Age: 77
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1803
Birthplace: South Carolina
Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head)
Spouse's Name: Letitia Bates
Father's birthplace: England
Mother's birthplace: [Maryland]
Neighbors: View others on page
Occupation: Farmer
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Cannot read/write:
Blind:
Deaf and dumb:
Otherwise disabled:
Idiotic or insane: View image
Household Members: Name Age
Allen Bates 77
Letitia Bates 69
Elizabeth Bates 34
Nancy Bates 25
George Etheridge 21
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http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:1817335&id=I86040724

•ID: I86040724
•Name: James BATES
•Given Name: James
•Surname: Bates
•Sex: M
•Birth: 5 Mar 1831 in Dekalb Co. Georgia
•Death: 25 Dec 1917 in Inverness,Al.
•Change Date: 16 Dec 2001

Father: Allen BATES b: 27 Oct 1803 in South Carolina
Mother: Leticia WHITE b: 12 Mar 1811 in Georgia

Marriage 1 Sarah Jane COX b: 17 Aug 1834 in Al.
•Note: _STATMARRIED
Children
1. John BATES b: 16 Dec 1857 in Al

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http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:1817335&id=I86040722

•ID: I86040722
•Name: John BATES
•Given Name: John
•Surname: Bates
•Sex: M
•Birth: 16 Dec 1857 in Al.
•Death: 11 Dec 1938 in Al.

Father: James BATES b: 5 Mar 1831 in Dekalb Co. Georgia
Mother: Sarah Jane COX b: 17 Aug 1834 in Al.

Marriage 1 Cynthia Tempaline OUTLAW b: 21 Oct 1862 in Al.
•Note: _STATMARRIED
Children
1. Nancy Viola BATES b: 11 Aug 1886
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http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bpepper5010&id=I66031
This researcher shows your father.

•ID: I66031
•Name: John B. Bates
•Sex: M
•Birth: 16 DEC 1857 in Barbour County, Alabama.
•Death: 11 DEC 1938 in Alabama.

Father: James Bates , Sr. b: 5 MAR 1831 in DeKalb County, Georgia. [C.S.A.] [D.R.]
Mother: Sarah Jane Cox b: 17 AUG 1834 in Alabama. [D.R.]

Marriage 1 Cynthia Tempaline Outlaw b: 26 OCT 1862 in Alabama.
•Married: 4 JAN 1881 in Prob. Bullock County, Alabama
Children
>>1. Johnson Arthur Bates b: 24 MAY 1882 in Inverness, Bullock County, Alabama. [WW 1 Record]
2. Savannah Bates b: 6 JUL 1884 in Bullock County, Alabama.
3. Viola Bates b: 11 AUG 1886 in Bullock County, Alabama.
4. Luther Bates b: ABT 1888 in Inverness, Bullock County, Alabama.
5. Minnie L. Bates b: 16 FEB 1891 in Bullock County, Alabama.
6. Jonnie Pearlie Bates b: MAR 1892 in Bullock County, Alabama.
7. Victoria Bates b: JAN 1894
8. Ida Corine Bates b: 19 JUN 1897 in Inverness, Bullock County, Alabama.
9. Anna Josephine [Josie] Bates b: OCT 1899 in Inverness, Bullock County, Alabama.
10. James Andrew Bates b: 11 MAR 1902 in Inverness, Bullock County, Alabama. [S.S.D.I. Record]
11. Nora O. Bates b: ABT 1905 in Inverness, Bullock County, Alabama.
12. Charley Douglas Bates b: ABT 1907 in Inverness, Bullock County, Alabama.


1910 United States Federal Census
about Johnson A Bates Name: Johnson A Bates
[Johnston A. Bates]
[Johnson A M.]
Age in 1910: 27
Estimated Birth Year: 1883
Birthplace: Alabama
Relation to Head of House: Head
[Self (Head)]
Father's Birth Place: Alabama
Mother's Birth Place: Alabama
Spouse's Name: Mary Bates
Home in 1910: Farriorville, Bullock, Alabama
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Johnson A Bates 27
Mary Bates 25
Myrtle Bates 5
Arthur V Bates 4
Bessie R Bates 3/12
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1920 United States Federal Census
about Johnson A Bates Name: Johnson A Bates
[Johnston Allen Bates]
Home in 1920: Post Oak, Bullock, Alabama
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Birthplace: Alabama
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
[Head]
Spouse's Name: Mary Jane Bates
Father's Birth Place: Alabama
Mother's Birth Place: Alabama
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Own
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Johnson A Bates 37
Mary Jane Bates 34
Cora Myrtle Bates 15
Author Virgil Bates 13
Bessie Ree Bates 10
John Thomas Bates 8
Ray Eugene Bates 6

1930 United States Federal Census
about Johnson Bates Name: Johnson Bates
Home in 1930: Post Oak, Bullock, Alabama
View Map
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Birthplace: Alabama
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Bates
Race: White
Occupation:
Education:
Military Service:
Rent/home value:
Age at first marriage:
Parents' birthplace: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Johnson Bates 47
Mary Bates 47
John T Bates 18
Roy Bates 16

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Ahnentafel, Generation No. 1

1. Johnson Arthur Bates was born 24 MAY 1882 in Inverness, Bullock County, Alabama. [WW 1 Record], and died AFT 1920 in Inverness, Bullock County, Alabama.. He was the son of 2. John B. Bates and 3. Cynthia Tempaline Outlaw.

Ahnentafel, Generation No. 2

2. John B. Bates was born 16 DEC 1857 in Barbour County, Alabama., and died 11 DEC 1938 in Alabama.. He was the son of 4. James Bates , Sr. and 5. Sarah Jane Cox.


3. Cynthia Tempaline Outlaw was born 26 OCT 1862 in Alabama., and died 10 OCT 1920 in Inverness, Bullock County, Alabama..

Children of Cynthia Tempaline Outlaw and John B. Bates are:

1. i. Johnson Arthur Bates was born 24 MAY 1882 in Inverness, Bullock County, Alabama. [WW 1 Record], and died AFT 1920 in Inverness, Bullock County, Alabama..
ii. Savannah Bates was born 6 JUL 1884 in Bullock County, Alabama..
iii. Viola Bates was born 11 AUG 1886 in Bullock County, Alabama..
iv. Luther Bates was born ABT 1888 in Inverness, Bullock County, Alabama..
v. Minnie L. Bates was born 16 FEB 1891 in Bullock County, Alabama..
vi. Jonnie Pearlie Bates was born MAR 1892 in Bullock County, Alabama..
vii. Victoria Bates was born JAN 1894.
viii. Ida Corine Bates was born 19 JUN 1897 in Inverness, Bullock County, Alabama..
ix. Anna Josephine [Josie] Bates was born OCT 1899 in Inverness, Bullock County, Alabama..
x. James Andrew Bates was born 11 MAR 1902 in Inverness, Bullock County, Alabama. [S.S.D.I. Record], and died FEB 1969 in Union Springs, Bullock County, Alabama..
xi. Nora O. Bates was born ABT 1905 in Inverness, Bullock County, Alabama., and died AFT 1920 in Inverness, Bullock County, Alabama..
xii. Charley Douglas Bates was born ABT 1907 in Inverness, Bullock County, Alabama..


Ahnentafel, Generation No. 3

4. James Bates , Sr. was born 5 MAR 1831 in DeKalb County, Georgia. [C.S.A.] [D.R.], and died 25 DEC 1917 in Inverness, Bullock County, Alabama.. He was the son of 8. Allen Bates and 9. Leticia [Lettie] White.


5. Sarah Jane Cox was born 17 AUG 1834 in Alabama. [D.R.], and died 29 OCT 1912 in Inverness, Bullock County, Alabama..

Children of Sarah Jane Cox and James Bates , Sr. are:

i. William Bates was born 7 SEP 1852 in Barbour County, Alabama..
ii. Eliza Bates was born 19 JUN 1854 in Barbour County, Alabama..
iii. Mary Bates was born 20 JUN 1856 in Barbour County, Alabama..
2. iv. John B. Bates was born 16 DEC 1857 in Barbour County, Alabama., and died 11 DEC 1938 in Alabama.. He married Cynthia Tempaline Outlaw 4 JAN 1881 in Prob. Bullock County, Alabama. She was born 26 OCT 1862 in Alabama., and died 10 OCT 1920 in Inverness, Bullock County, Alabama..
v. James Bates , Jr. was born 7 MAY 1860 in Barbour County, Alabama. [D.R.], and died APR 1930 in Inverness, Bullock County, Alabama.. He married Anna ____ 1882 in Bullock County, Alabama. She was born MAR 1865 in Alabama., and died AFT 1910 in Bullock County, Alabama..
vi. Caleb Bates was born 25 FEB 1862 in Barbour County, Alabama..
vii. Charles Bates was born ABT 1864 in Barbour County, Alabama..
viii. Turner Johnson Bates was born 17 MAR 1869 in Barbour County, Alabama., and died AFT 1930 in Post Oak, Bullock County, Alabama.. He married Mary A. Emma Childs 1893 in Bullock County, Alabama. She was born ABT 1872 in Bullock County, Alabama., and died AFT 1930 in Post oak, Bullock County, Alabama..
ix. Allen P. Bates was born 14 JAN 1875 in Barbour County, Alabama., and died 28 FEB 1952 in Birmingham, Alabama.. He married Emma Cope 22 JAN 1896 in Bullock County, Alabama. She was born 6 JUN 1871 in Alabama., and died 5 OCT 1967 in Birmingham, Alabama..

Ahnentafel, Generation No. 4

8. Allen Bates was born 27 OCT 1803 in York County, South Carolina., and died 26 JUN 1899 in Pike County, Alabama.. He was the son of 16. John Bates , Sr., Esq. and 17. Rebecca Rolfe.


9. Leticia [Lettie] White was born 12 MAR 1811 in Georgia., and died 13 AUG 1896 in Pike County, Alabama..

Children of Leticia [Lettie] White and Allen Bates are:

i. Rebecca Bates was born 1827 in DeKalb County, Georgia., and died AFT 1870 in Pike County, Alabama.. She married Julius Goss 22 DEC 1846 in Stewart County, Georgia.. He was born ABT 1820 in Georgia., and died BEF 1870 in Pike County, Alabama..
ii. Marion Allen Bates was born ABT 1830 in DeKalb County, Georgia.. He married Marietta Barnes 10 DEC 1857 in Barbour County, Alabama.
4. iii. James Bates , Sr. was born 5 MAR 1831 in DeKalb County, Georgia. [C.S.A.] [D.R.], and died 25 DEC 1917 in Inverness, Bullock County, Alabama.. He married Sarah Jane Cox 27 NOV 1851 in Barbour County, Georgia.. She was born 17 AUG 1834 in Alabama. [D.R.], and died 29 OCT 1912 in Inverness, Bullock County, Alabama..
iv. Harmon Bates was born ABT 1839 in DeKalb County, Georgia. [C.S.A.], and died AFT 1860 in Pike County, Alabama..
v. Edward Bates was born ABT 1841 in DeKalb County, Georgia., and died 1863.
vi. Bryant Bates was born ABT 1842 in DeKalb County, Georgia. [C.S.A.].
vii. Elizabeth Bates was born ABT 1846 in DeKalb County, Georgia..
viii. Allen Bates was born ABT 1848 in Pike County, Alabama., and died AFT 1880 in Bullock County, Alabama.. He married Mary F. ____ in Pike/Bullock County, Alabama. She was born ABT 1848 in Georgia., and died AFT 1880 in Bullock County, Alabama..
ix. Exy Bates was born ABT 1852 in Pike County, Alabama..
x. Nancy Bates was born ABT 1854 in Pike County, Alabama..

Ahnentafel, Generation No. 5

16. John Bates , Sr., Esq. was born ABT 1753 in England., and died BET 1821 AND 1829 in York District, South Carolina..


17. Rebecca Rolfe was born 1760 in England., and died 26 OCT 1806 in York District, South Carolina..

Children of Rebecca Rolfe and John Bates , Sr., Esq. are:

i. Zachariah Bates was born BET 1780 AND 1790.
ii. Thomas A. Bates was born 1783 in York District, South Carolina., and died AFT 1860 in York County, South Carolina.. He married Unknown Spouse in York District [County] South Carolina.
iii. Robert Bates was born BET 1794 AND 1800.
iv. Isis [Icey] Bates was born ABT 1799 in York District, South Carolina., and died 1872 in York County, South Carolina..
v. Elizabeth [Betsey] Bates was born ABT 1800 in York District, South Carolina., and died 1857 in York County, South Carolina..
vi. John Bates , Jr., Esq. was born BET 1800 AND 1810 in York District, South Carolina..
8. vii. Allen Bates was born 27 OCT 1803 in York County, South Carolina., and died 26 JUN 1899 in Pike County, Alabama.. He married Leticia [Lettie] White 1827 in DeKalb County, Georgia. She was born 12 MAR 1811 in Georgia., and died 13 AUG 1896 in Pike County, Alabama..
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William Bates WGB97@elp.rr.com 2010-06-13 16:36:17
The wives of John Bates Sr have been determined from York County, SC Probate Court records to be (1) Rebecca BEALL - born in Maryland and (2) Miss (Alice R.) KENNEDY. Allen BATES, Rebecca's youngest, states on the 1880 census that his father was born in England and mother in Maryland. Between these it is OBVIOUS that Rebekah ROLFE of England probably is not a wife of this John BATES Sr Esq. A recent discovery that John may have been born in the North part of Sussex County (Shire) in the vicinity of London puts this marriage as an extremely slight possibility but only if she dies either before departure, during the voyage, or very shortly after arrival in America.


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