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Re: Who is the true mother of JOHN ISAAC BATES (1598-1667)?
Posted by: Wayne Witt Bates (ID *****7673) Date: November 02, 2012 at 05:30:49
In Reply to: Re: Who is the true mother of JOHN ISAAC BATES (1598-1667)? by Wayne Witt Bates of 8068

Per DNA, DNA from descendant of Julius Bates (1780-1864)
who was brother of your ancestor General John Bates,
matched exactly with DNA Donor Sir Geoffrey Bates of
England, now deceased.

Here is a sketch of the life of Sir Geoffrey Bates

Sir Geoffrey Bates, Bt
12:01AM BST 12 Apr 2005
Sir Geoffrey Bates, 5th Bt, who has died aged 83, was awarded an MC as a second lieutenant with the 8th King's Royal Irish Rifles in the Western Desert.
On September 7 1942, he was in command of the leading troop of a squadron of light tanks operating against the enemy's southern flank near Hemlimat, Egypt. The wadi from the Qattara Depression along which he had passed came under heavy fire from his front and flanks and, as his troops approached the end of a narrow defile, an anti-tank gun opened up on them.
Bates was ordered to pull back, but he remained within 200 yards of the gun and drew its fire while the rest of his squadron withdrew. Although his tank was hit, he continued to direct his comrades across difficult terrain until they reached safety. He was awarded an immediate MC.
Geoffrey Voltelin Bates, the only son of Major Cecil Bates, DSO, MC, was born at Tattenhall, Cheshire, on October 2 1921 and succeeded in the baronetcy in 1946 on the death of his uncle, Sir Percy Bates, 4th Bt, a former chairman of the Cunard Steam Ship Company. The baronetcy was created in 1880 for Sir Edward Bates, who had been MP for Plymouth.
Geoffrey went to Radley before being commissioned into his regiment in 1941. He joined it in the Western Desert where soldiers competed for a place in his tank, calculating that while his dash and enthusiasm would put him in the forefront of any attack, he would only stir the enemy from its slumbers, leaving those in his wake to bear the full brunt of their fire.
On one occasion, his verve left him stuck on his own behind enemy lines, and he was ordered to wait until nightfall before attempting to withdraw. He was an incorrigible fidgeter, and by mistake knocked a switch which turned the headlights full on and revealed his position to the enemy. In the darkness of the tank's interior, he could not find the switch again, and had no alternative but to draw his pistol, disembark and shoot out the lights. After this adventure, there was a sharp fall in the numbers applying for a place in his crew.
The regiment returned to England with the 7th Armoured Division in time to take part in the invasion of Normandy. Bates was then appointed ADC to General Sir Neil Ritchie, commander of 12th Corps, and accompanied him to Edinburgh when the latter became GOC Scottish Command.
After demobilisation, Bates took up a partnership with the shipowners Edward Bates & Sons, but following the death, in 1957, of another uncle, he moved, with his family, to Gyrn Castle, Holywell, Clwyd, where he succeeded in developing the farming, fishing and shooting potential of an estate much reduced in size by death duties. He also held a number of directorships, including that of the Globe Insurance Company.
Bates was, in turn, treasurer and secretary of the Flint and Denbigh Hunt. He was also clerk of the course for the hunt's point-to-point and he would ride his own horse, Sam, at hunt races. In 1969 he was appointed High Sheriff of Flintshire.
He suffered more than his share of tragedy. His first wife died suddenly after a minor operation, while one of his daughters was killed by a car when walking along a road. The death of his second wife, in 1969, left him with four children and a large castle to run. A man of less fortitude might have been crushed by his sorrows, but Bates filled Gyrn with his sense of fun.
Sir Geoffrey Bates died on February 13. He married first, in 1945, Kitty Kendall Lane, from Saskatchewan. After her death he married secondly, in 1957, Olivia FitzRoy, daughter of the 2nd Viscount Daventry, the author of several children's books; she was working on the regimental history of the 8th King's Royal Irish Hussars at the time of their wedding. Following her death he married, thirdly, in 1971, Hugolyn Whitelocke-Winter. She predeceased him as did a son and a daughter. He is survived by a son by his first marriage and by a daughter of the second.
The son, Edward, who was born in 1946, succeeds in the baronetcy.


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