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Re: Begin/Boucher families of Medicine Lake, Mn
Posted by: Carolyn (ID *****6155) Date: November 08, 2007 at 13:27:44
In Reply to: Re: Begin/Boucher families of Medicine Lake, Mn by Rita Sullivan of 298

Rita,

I have just begun to research my husband's Benjamin line. His gr-grandmother was Matilda Benjamin. She was a sister to Caroline Benjamin who you mention as married to Napoleon Begin. Matilda married Julius Pagenkopf and lived in MN.

I remember my father-in-law talking about the Begin family when he was alive. He mentioned a Tommy Begin and a Marie from what I remember.

In the 1880 census for Wheatland, Rice Co. MN
Napoleon and Caroline are living next door to the Flavien Benjamin family - Falvien 52, Flavien 28 and Arthur 16.....all born Canada.

I also found the Benjamins in 1870 Wheatland Rice MN but no mother with them. I assume she died before that time. Do you know her name. I may have found Flavien and family in 1851 census for St. Gregoire, Rouville, QU but it is hard to read some of the names. It looks like his wife may have been named Caroline. In Quebec they would put the wife with her maiden name which is hard to read but looks like Lonan/Louan/Locan???

I have tried to find the Begin family in Quebec 1851. Do you know where they were living at that time? Also do you know Louis Napoleons parents names?

I found Caroline in 1900 listed as Carry and now the wife of J. Actchinson. Her children all show father as born IA which is this husband's birth place rather than Canada which was Napoleon's birth place.
1900 Chippewa Indian Reservation, Cass, MN
ACTCHINSON
J. age 44, born Aug. 1855, hotel keeper,born IA father born KY mother born IA, married 21 years

Carry age 34, born July 1865, wife, born Canada parents born Canada, married 21 years 4 children born 3 living immigrated 1867

BEGIN
Cora M. daughter, age 15, born July 1884 born MN father born IA mother born Canada

Emil J. son, age 14 born Jan. 1886 born MN father born IA mother born Canada

Napoleon F. son age 8 born July 1891, born MN father born IA mother born Canada
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In 1910 the family is living next door to Caroline's brother Joseph and his family.

1910 Forest,Rice, MN
ATCHINSON
Carolin 42, widow born Canada parents born Canada immigraged 1866, farmer general farming, 4 children born 2 living

Joseph E. son 23, born MN parents born Canada, farm laborer, home farm

Napoleon son 19, born MN parents born Canada, farm laborer, home farm
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** so again the sons are listed as Atchinson rather than Begin. Also it seems Cora died between 1900 and 1910 as Carolin is shown with 4 children born and only 2 living.
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1920 - this is another odd census as Caroline seems to be married again and son Joseph is next door , again listed as Atchison. Caroline's age has changed as well, she really has a lot of years added or deleted from one census to the next.
1920 Forest, Rice MN
DULAC
Caroline, 58, farmer, general farming, born Can parents born Can. immigrated 186?, naturalized 1889

Joseph age 6f2, farm labor, home farm, born Can. parents born Ca.immigrated 1877, naturalized 1890

next door
ATCHISON
Joseph 34, farmer, general farming, born MN parents born Canada

Margaret 22, born NE father born NE mother born IA

*** Joseph's place of birth is written over, I can read both MN and Canada, but hard to tell which is written over which. We do know he was born MN though.
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1920 West Side, Deschutes, OR
Hixon Lumber Camp #2
BEGIN
Fabian N. 29, lineman, logging Co. born MN parents born Canada

Myrtle N. f24, born MN father born Germany, mother born NY

Mary C. 2-8/12 born OR parents born MN

Joan L. 1-6/12 born OR parents born MN
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**** So, Fabian went back to using the Begin name.
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1930 Bemidji, Beltrami, MN
BEGIN
Myrtle 34, widow born MN father born Germany mother born NY

Mary C. 12, born OR parents born MN

Joan L. 10, born OR parents born MN

John F. 9, born OR parents born MN

** no occupation show for Myrtle. I wonder how she managed with 3 young children and no husband....must have been very hard for her.
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I could not find either Caroline or her son Joseph in 1930. I tried Joseph as Begin and Atchison as well as as Emil. Caroline's sister Matilda (married to 1. Julius Pagenkopf, 2. Steven Duval) died 1935. In her obit it mentions her sister Carrie DuLac as living in Los Angeles, so Caroline should be in the 1930 census but I have tried all spellings I can think of and have not found her.

I looked in the California Death Index and found a Caroline Atchison born July 15, 1858, died April 9, 1950 Los Angeles, maiden name Benjamin - birth place : Canada

I wonder if this is your Caroline. I know the 1900 census showed birth year of 1865, but 1880 census she is 19 which would be birth year of about 1861 so who knows when she was really born. Also, whoeaver gave the info for the death record may have had the wrong year. I think it very possible this is her. Why she would be listed as Atchison rather than Dulac is a mystery though. Maybe they divorced and she went back to her pre-marriage to him name.

Have you heard of the Dalby Database? It is a wonderful collection of MN info. He has births, marriages, deaths, cemetery entries, obits etc. I have found quite a lot there on my husband's family. It is at:
http://www.dalbydata.com/user.php?action=cemsearch

It is well worth looking at. There are several entries for Begin.

On ancestry.com, The California Death Index also has:
John Fabian Begin born Jan. 11, 1921 Oregon
died: June 27, 1997 Contra Costa, California
mothers maiden name: Neumann
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So at least John went on to California at some time.
I hope this is all of some help to you with your research.

Carolyn


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