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Re: George Begin (s) - b. 1854, Quebec
Posted by: Kim Date: October 08, 1999 at 22:41:12
In Reply to: Re: George Begin (s) - b. 1854, Quebec by Richard Bégin of 298

Hi Richard -

Thank you again for the help, and I will try to help you with your research as well.

Unfortunately, I do not know the names of George's brother's and sister's - I am, in fact, working on that right now with some of my older relatives who are still alive in Vermont. They are trying to get together some old family correspondance, bibles and vital records for me which pertain to this matter. What I have is slow in coming to me, but I will, if you like, forward copies to you of what I get, when I get it. You can e-mail me at and I can scan and forward to you what I have already.

As to George and Celanire's children: My grandfather was the sixth child (according to his birth certificate, which I have.) His name was Joseph Clifford Begins. A very interesting story is attached to this, though. My grandfather spent his whole life thinking that his name was Clifford John Begins. His records all stated such. When I went to look for his birth certificate, I couldn't find it listed under his name. I knew his birthdate, however, and looked that way, finding the birth certificate which stated his name was Joseph Clifford. I got a copy of this, brought it to him, and asked "Grandpa, I finally found your birth certificate, but it says your name is Joseph Clifford, not Clifford John." He said, "Well, god damn, Kimberly, I think I know my own name." I showed him the birth certificate and said, "Well, do you think this is you? Is this your mom and dad's name, is this the address your parents lived at?" He looked at the paper for a minute or so and said "Well I'll be a son of a b***. Dorothy (his wife), come look at this s**t. I don't know my own god damned name!"

So, I keep the birth certificate as kind of special, because whenever I look at it, I think of him and how he lived his whole life not knowing his name (and I wonder why no one ever told him what his correct name was.)

Added to the fact of the confusion in his first name, is the fact that all of his children (my mother included) have that added "s" at the end of their name, and thus are listed as "Begins" (which my grandfather also went by), although on his birth certificate, there is no "s".

Joseph Clifford and Dorothy had 14 children, so there are a lot of "Begins" in Vermont. (I have tons of cousins.)

Again, thank you for the help, and I will look forward to your e-mail. I will start to scan in some of the material I have collected. Also, e-mail me the best format for a Gedfile and I will convert my database for you.

Thanks Again,


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