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Mike, I have a Norman Betsinger, born Oct. 5, 1917, Lincoln, Ny. Son of Ben Cordell and Cornelia Betsinger. (Weren't they married? I don't know.) I don't think this is yours. Right now, I don't see any other Normans. But, I have lots of Clarences-some with major family info. Do you have any idea of dates with your Clarence? I just found something- I have a Clarence, son of Cornelia L. and Daniel Betsinger. This may be your connection after all. Can you tell me any more info about your family? I have several other Clarences listed. Write me email@example.com I will try to digest this info, so it may make more sense. Can't wait to hear from you. I have someone working on this line, if it connects. Linda