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Re: Joseph J. CARMINE, 1842 to 1917
Posted by: Kevin Cosand Patton (ID *****9101) Date: March 04, 2007 at 15:49:50
In Reply to: Re: Joseph J. CARMINE, 1842 to 1917 by Debra Fisher of 40


My name is Kevin.

I found this posting at Rootsweb from Michele:

Posted: 31 Dec 2002 5:51AM GMT

Re: Carrie

My 3x great Aunt is Elizabeth C. Carmin. We are of German descent, Her father and mother are Benjamin Carmin Born 1763, Maryland, and Elizabeth Chapman Carmin born 1776, in Virginia. The spelling in german is Carmon, but after a indian massacre in 1773 and Elizabeth's father Benjamin was one of the 3 children to escape. They did not know the exact spelling of the last name so when Benjamin and Elizabeths children were able to write all his children, including Elizabeth C. there daughter spelled there name Carmin, except Samuel, he spelled his Carmon. I have no info on were Elizabeth and Henry moved. I would like some more info on the move if you have any. My aunts have researched alot and came up with about a 6" family history book of my grandma and grandpa Carmin's and more info is always great to add. Thanks, Michele


However, I have a different set of facts from the research of my late first cousin once removed, who was a genealogist. His information is as follows:

"Benjamin Carmin, born 1763 in Maryland, son of David William and Sarah Jane Williams Carmin. Married Elizabeth Chapman, 1790, born 1776 in Virginia. Elizabeth Chapman Carmin died December 18, 1836 and Benjamin Carmin died May 29, 1840 in Pike Twp., Clark Co., Ohio. They are buried in the Upper Honeycreek Cemetary, north of Christiansburg, Ohio."

"Benjamin Carmin came to Ohio from Frederick Co. Maryland in 1811. Was granted a tract of 80 acres to be surveyed between the Big and Little Miami Rivers. It was the extreme northwest section of Clark Co., Ohio on the Studebaker Road. Benjamin and Elizabeth Carmin, with their children, became early members of the Donnels-Creek Church of the Brethren. Their children when grown journeyed westward, some moving to Paulding Co. Ohio, while others joined the Brethren colonizations to Kansas, Dakotas and other western states."

Children of Benjamin and Elizabeth Chapman Carmin:
1- Benjamin Jr., b. 1792, d. 1792.
2- Mary C., b.1794, d.? m. Thomas Buckles August 31, 1826.
3- Elijah, b. 1796, d.? m.Jane ?,
4- Sarah, b. 1798, d.? m. Jeremiah Priest, June 21, 1821.
5- Lewis, b. April 13, 1800, d. Feb.3, 1874, m.Jane ?, b. Oct. 25, 1807, d.?
6- John R., b.1802, d. Mar 20 1887, m.Sophia Long, b. 1800, d. 1851.
7- Elizabeth C., b. 1806, d.1836,m. Henry Long, June 25, 1825.
8- William, b. 1809, d. 1873, m. Rhoda ?, lived in Delaware Co., Indiana.
9- Eliza, b. 1811, d. 1884, m. William Richeson, b. 1809, d. 1864
10- Nancy C., b. June 4, 1814, d. June 21, 1856, m. Samuel Deaton, b. 1813, d. 1894. (Samuel Deatons's 2nd wife, Junetta Priest, niece of Nancy Carmin Deaton.
11- Lovitha, b. 1818, d. ? m. Joseph Maxson, moved to Portland, Indiana.

Benjamin Carmin's father = "David William Carmin, [ancestor of Kevin Cosand Patton] b. March 1, 1727, d. ca 1773 outside Baltimore, Maryland, from an Indian massacre, killing David, his wife Sarah Jane Williams Carmin, and seven of their ten children. Three children survived - Benjamin, Samantha, and John. David's father (name unknown), a young man from the sunny shores of Italy, landed in the Scottish-Irish section of the northern part of the British Isles. Here in Essex, England, March 1, 1727, a son was born and he was christened David William Carmin. David William Carmin, m. May 5, 1745, Sarah Jane Williams, also born in Essex, England and died 1773."

Now, Carmine is a not uncommon place name in Italy. Carmin is also a common first name in France, Italy and other European nations ... Carmine is a male first name in Italy, and Carmin is often associated with female name elsewhere.

Would love to hear your comments.

Kevin P

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