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William Cave (1749-1839) of Montgomery Co, KY
Posted by: Larry Martin (ID *****3997) Date: January 11, 2009 at 00:29:18
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This is my second major post concerning William Cave. My first post did not generate the discussions I had hoped (see 13 Aug 2007 post).

In the old post, I queried for a source for the middle name of William Cave as Harrison; and for the source that claimed he was a gentleman judge (1784-1787) at Harrodsburg. No responses. These statements may be true; however, no one has stepped forward with sources. In my research over the past year, I can find no source showing a middle name, let alone "Harrison." He is always called William Cave.

I can not find any source for this William Cave ever being at Harrodsburg. I do find references to the "Traveling Church" and Richard Cave and his brother William Cave (sons of Benjamin and Hannah Bledsoe) traveling to Kentucky in 1781. They were both preachers. They did seem to be associated with the Harrodsburg region of the country in the early 1780s. You see these Caves and their relatives also associated with Garrard, Scott, Woodford, and Boone counties, as well as other counties in those general areas. I find no refererence where any of them settled in Montgomery Co, KY.

As stated in my earlier post, the William Cave of Montgomery Co, KY was in the Rev War. After the war, he moved to SC and then to Kentucky. I do find a Wm Cave listed in the 1790 Greenville SC census. The census shows 1 male over 16, 2 males under 16, and 5 females. This fits quite nicely with our William Cave's family. Greenville, SC is in northeastern SC and is next to NC. Close to this border (one county over) is Buncombe Co, NC. In the 1800 Buncombe Co, NC there is a Jonas Cave, wife, and two other females. He is listed as over the age of 45. I believe this to be the brother to William Cave.

William Cave first appears (at least the earliest that I have found him) in the 1795 Clark Co, KY tax list. Both Benjamin (his brother) and William can be found in the 1796 Clark Co, KY tax list.

William can be found consistently in Montgomery County from 1797 all the way through the 1835 tax list. Then he disappears until court records appear surrounding his death in 1839.

Recent research I did on tax lists lead me to believe that William Cave lived on Spencer Creek, Montgomery County as early as 1810. He shows with 100 acres on Spencer Creek in 1815. Spencer Creek is a tributary of Slate Creek and is not a very long tributary. Highway 713 (heading southeast out of Mt. Sterling) parallels this creek for a few miles. So, he didn't move around much between 1810 and 1835. Two interesting things about his Will and the estate settlement. First, the Will was written in 1830; 9 years before he died. He mentions his wife, Rachel. Second, the sale bill of 1841 shows who bought some of his personal belongings. They were Joseph Hon, Robert Gay, and Jefferson Willabaugh (probably Benjamin Jefferson Willoughby). These are all residents of the Cane Creek area of modern day Powell Co. I suspect that his wife did not outlive him (based on how the estate was handled). I also suspect he moved (probably because of his infirmed condition) and lived with Joseph and Nellie Cave Hon (his daughter and son-in-law). They owned land on Cane Creek.

Now about his wife Rachel. Some say he was married twice with his second wife being Rachel Martin. This may be true, but I can't find any sources to support these statements. The first mention of Rachel was in a record showing a deed transaction between William and Rachel Cave, Sr. and his son, William Cave, Jr. in 1822. She was also mentioned in hs 1830 Will. Census and other records allow us to place her birth between 1751 and 1760. William Cave, Jr. did marry a Martha "Patsy" Martin, in Jan 1822 but he died in Dec 1824. There are court records concerning this issue. Tax records also show William Cave, Jr owning 27 or so acres. His widow then shows with 27 or so acres. All entries show Spencer Creek. In 1831, 7 acres were surveyed for her dowry rights. The survey shows that it ajoins the James Gatewood property on Spencer Creek.

So, to summerize (hopefully someone will provide sources to either prove or disprove the following):

1. William Cave of Montgomery Co, KY did not have a middle name of Harrison.

2. He was never at Ft. Harrod or Harrodsburg between 1784 and 1787.

3. He probably did not arrive in Ky until between 1790 and 1795. He first shows in 1795 Clark Co (and more than likely this was the section that broke off to become Montgomery Co, KY in 1797. (Note: Greenville, SC tax records, if they exist, should be checked for the time period before and after 1790).

4. Lived on Spencer Creek at least from 1810 and at least thru 1835.

5. Married once to a Rachel, last name unknown. Did not marry a Rachel Martin (unless that was the lasst name of his first wife). She more than likely preceeded him in death (based on how his estate was handled).

6. Moved to Cane Creek area sometime after 1835 and probably lived with his daughter's family; Joseph and Nellie Cave Hon.

Please also review my 2007 post. I hope both will generate some useful conversations and hopefully some source information to support or contradict my claims listed in these two posts.

Thanks,

Larry

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