Posted By:John Breese McKenzie
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Subject:Re: Origins of Timothy Breese
Post Date:October 25, 1999 at 21:07:45
Message URL:http://genforum.genealogy.com/breese/messages/211.html
Forum:Breese Family Genealogy Forum
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Thank-you Chris, I’m a descendant of the Basking Ridge John Brees and I agree that the link of John Bress to the Rev. Sydney Brees is not proven and is most likely a myth. As most familiar with this line (John) know that the connection between John Brees and the Rev. Sydney Brees was probably first publicized in a pamphlet written by Mr. Steuben Jenkins and others, for a 1869 Breese family reunion held in Horseheads, New York. Mr. Jenkins offered no proof of the connection of John to Sydney nor did he insist on the accuracy of the connection.

As stated in the message posted by Jeanette Messenger, Mr. Weeden Rockwell Nichols, goes even further saying that the Rev. Sydney was not father of John, Henry, and Cornelius and concludes that the Rev. Sydney Brees was probably the mother of another well know Brees – Sydney; He writes:

“On July 24, 1996, we checked that actual records on microfiche and transcriptions at the Information Service, co-located with the Shrewsbury Library at Castle Gates, Shrewsbury. We did find, in the records of St. Julian Parish, Shrewsbury, the record of the baptism on September 22, 1709 of “Seednay Brees” the purported brother of John, Henry and Cornelius. If so, this dispenses with the family tradition or fiction of a Rev. Sydney Breese. (It was Sydney’s mother, not his father, whose name was a form of “Sydney”.) We also found record of a sibling of Sydney the emigrant having been baptized. This was “Robert ye son of Samuel Brees Glover (glove-maker) and Sidney his wife”. We found no record of siblings named John, Henry or Cornelius, nor even of anyone identifiable as “our” John, or Henry or Cornelius having been born at Shrewsbury.

I believe that Mr. Nichols research adds another nail to the coffin, of the probable myth, promoted in the Jenkins pamphlet.
I have posted an old Breese family chart on my website which has information about the John, Henry and Cornelius which likely, settled in Somerset County, New Jersey. By all accounts and appearance the chart is very old and based on the information written on the back of the chart it could date back to the early 1800's. This chart, if accurate, would help support your hypothesis that many (and probably John, Henry and Cornelius ) were of Dutch /German descent.
See the following site for more information on the old chart:
http://www.breeseusa.org/Oth_Breese%20chart.htm
Most of the text from the Jenkins pamphlet can be seen at:
http://www.breeseusa.org/Oth-ancestory%20-%20Part%201.htm

John Breese McKenzie

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