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Re: Peter Clubb{klopp/Clobb}of North Carolina
Posted by: steven Behr (ID *****8789) Date: January 16, 2008 at 19:57:29
In Reply to: Re: Peter Clubb{klopp/Clobb}of North Carolina by Peggy Reeves of 646

(We can continue this on gen.com if you think it will be of a general help to people, or you can write me at behrstv@aol.com and I can send larger amounts.)

Thanks for the pension file, I didn't have that.
First let me give you everything i have on Klop. and Clubb in Pa
Tulpehocken map shows lands of first settlers and mentions" Peter and Jacob Klopp arrived after May 13, 1723" which is the date of major in migration of the Palatinates.
1730 Tulephocken church records, I find no Klop, CLubb, Glubb.
1734 warrant, returned l74l for Peter Clubb or Grubb. (apparnetly the l890 transcriber had a hard time reading that part of the handwriting. This was also the transcriber who added a note that Clubb = Klop. My daughter works in geology in Penn and is doing a search to come up with the original, untranscribed warrant so we can take a good look to see if that Clubb= Klop is on the original or done by the transcriber.)
1735 Lancaster Deeds A 4 Casper Wister of Phil mortgages to Thomas Penn esquire, proprietor L l8l8 9740 acres Tulpehocken adjacent John Page, Conrad Sharpe, Richard Penn. Also 260 acres on a branch of Swhatawro Creek adjacent Thomas Fream, Peter Clubb's settlement, Richard Penn, except l94 acres Casper Wiser granted to Jacob Leman 26/27 Jan l735.
1738 warrant, returned l74l (Lancaster Warrents at Hist society of Berks, Reading) I have a copy. Peter Clubb l00 acres returned l8 June l74l. By virtue of a a land warrant May anno dom l738 for the laying out unto Peter Clubb an addition to his other land in Tulpehocken Township in the county of Lancastger laid out unto the sd Peter Clubb in the township afsd a certain tract of land. Beginning at a post in a line of his other land thence extending by the same and Cunrad Sharp's and vacant land south ten degrees, east on ehundred and twentyperches to a black oak marked thence by vacant land north, eight degrees east one hundred and twenty perches to a hickory (sic) sapling marked thence by vacant land north ten degrees west one hundred and twenty perches to a post, thence by vacant land south eight degrees west one hundred and twenty perches to the place of the beginning, containing eighty five acres and an allowance of 6 pcet for roads. survey ye 5th July l739. P Wm Parsons. Frd Wm Parsons in the lince s l0 e pleace to note at what idstance fomr the point a Conrad Sharps is. It is 55 l/2 perches from the point "A to C Sharps corner. Wm Parson. Thy frd B Eastburn, this returned with another of l00 acres adj.
1741 Peter Klop came on Lydia l741, Sept 29 (acc to lds) if so then he is still in Germany when Peter Clubb warrants this land, and they are not the same person. However might there be descendants of the other Klops who were in Tulpehocken post l723?
       1746 (Trinity Ev Luth New Holland, Lancaster) Peter Klopp (wife not named) dau Christina Barbara b May 5, 1746 bapt June 29, l746. Sponsor Andreas Gross and wife.
       1748 Lancaster births; George Klob bapt May l748 of Peter and Margaret. Records of Zeltsenreich Reformed Earl Twp Lancaster.
       1752 Cocalico twp Lancaster ll/ll/l752 Peter Klop and wife Maudlin to Nicholas Zerfas of same twp. Klop received the land l753.
       1753 Peter Sr of Tulpehocken will dated Sept l753 probated l755. He had children Susanna l7l6, dau 1748. Peter jr died 22 May l794 Berks co Pa.
       1753 Lancaster wills. Book B, vol l p.72. Peter Klop Sept ll, l753 proven Jan 6, 1755. Ex Peter Kloppa nd Jacob Sensseman, Cocalico twp. Chidlren names and number omitted. Brother Derrick Klopp. Son in law Jacob Horsberger.
       1753 Earl twp Lancaster L 77 Andrew Lebenstein carpenter, Rude Zook and Leonard Clop, relinquished right to George Garnes June l5, l753.
       1756 report of troops at “Daniel Shue’s or Peter Klop’s “ (source; Frontier Forts, web. )
       1757 baptism Trinity Tulpehocken. Catharine, of Jacob Seibert and Susanna b Feb 25, 1757, bapt March 20, l757. Sponsors Peter Klopp and wife Werrine.
       1759 Lancaster deeds F 56. Barnard Neiser; x of Cocalico twp, to Jacob Sensiman of Cocalico L l4 Cocalico twp. Nicholas Bervas, Peter Clop, Michael Shafer, 25 Feb l759
       1761 abstracts of Orphans ct Lancaster 1742-1767. 1761 May, John Heil decd (3l) Rep from referees appointed the first Tuesday in May 1761. They have value and appraised the valuation. On payment of the heirs, Peter Klop is to hold the land in his own right. The court orders the valuation money to be distributed to the widow (not named) now wife of the said Klop and to the deceased’s children; to wit Salome @ Francis Brasman, Christiana @ Baltzer Leach, Anna Maria, Maria Charharina, and Margaret. P.75 (this would imply that Peter Klop married by l76l to the widow Heil) This must be Peter jr.
       1761 Lancaster deeds G 4ll Daniel Shuey; x of Bethel twp and w Mary Martha; x rel to Ludwick Shuey, son of Danile L 70. 641 Bethel twp; Peter Clup (sic) Michael Albright, Daniel Shuey other land, Ludwig Shuey (presume the neighbors). Warrant of 5,000 ac May 13, 1732 to Thomas Penn who granted to Joseph Turner l0 Sept l735, who assgd to Wm Allen of Phil, who with wife Margaret leased 265 ac. 2l May l753 to Daniel Shuey to whom patent was issued Nov 12, 1753, 21 Dec l76l Peter Kob, Philip Marsteller J 56 l7 Nov l762.
       1763 (Records of Pastoral acts at Christ Lutheran church Stouchsburg, Berks co Pa. Baptism. Peter Klopp and wife, sponsors for Johan Peter, son of Balser and Christiana Lesch. B April l4, l763, bapt May 22, l763. (This would be Peter jr and his new wife widow Heil)
       1790 ; Pa, Berks, Heidelberg twp. Jacob Klupp, Peter jr, Peter sr.
       (Biographical of Berks co, copy Cleveland West Reserve. P.l689) Peter Klopp/Klop/Klopf ref member Tulpehocken in l735, later was Reve Peter Miller, Godfried Fider, Conrad Weiser and others, joined ch at Ephrata, Lancaster co and at the home of Mr Fidler, who had first taken up land in Tulp twp burned the Psalms, catechisms and other good books. Before the house of the Tulp brethren was finished, Conrad Weiser, Hans Michael Miller, Peter Klopf, Godfried Fidler and several single men and women went to the settlement of Ephrata. Of these Wiser, Miller and Klopf later withdrew from Ephratra, but not so the dau of Peter Klopf who remained steadfast. Her monastic name was “Thecla” and is so listed on the register of the sisterhood. She d Oct 6, l748 probably at Ephratha. Peter d l753 (see Sachse’s German sectarians of Penn l708-l742).
       1719l( jr.)Peter Klop, son of Peter b Nov 22, l7l9 d May 22, l794 and is buried at Hain’s church where the inscription on his tombstone is still legible. His wife Werrima Becker (in) b Jan 24, l7l8 d Nov l3, l792.
       Peter Klop III b Hidelberg May 3l, l75l died there Feb 24, l835 at 84, buried Corner church etc etc.
       1780 Trinity Reformed Tulpehocken, Jackson, Lebanon co; Peter Klopp groom, Arpil 27, 1800
       lds; Peter Klop l695 Bingen Germany l) Frederick l723, 2 f c l72l, 3) Lydia l74l
       Thus the Klops all stayed in Tulpehocken and did not come to North Carolina. Where did they get the name Margaret Koenin for his wife?
        Lds lists; Peter Klopp l695 Bingen am Rhein m Velda (deed says l752 wife is Maudlin, Cocalico twp)
              1. Elisabeth Klopp l715 Bingen
              2. Daniel 1717
              3. John Peter l7l9 Bingen Am rhein. -1794 Hains’ church, Lancaster co., m Werrina Becker l7l8 Dannstadt, Pfalz
                     1. James Peter Klopp l749 Bingen (doesn’t make sense, still in old country?)
                     2. John Peter l75l Heidleberg twp Berks co Pa m Eliz Fidler b l763 ch all Heidelberg twp
              4. Unknown l72l
              5. Frederick l723 Bingen (lds has details).

Lds also has
       Johann Klopp
              1. JohannHans Barthel Klopp l674 Bingen, Am Rhein d l742 Lebanon Penn m Maria Catharina Juncker.

Lds also ahs Peter Clap b c l7ll Germany? D ll Sept l753 Cocalico, cam eon Lydia 29 Sept l74l m Maudlin
       1. Elizabeth before l729, d l784 Lancaster . M Johan Nicolaus Zerfass l8 Nov l745 Lancaster (this is the one in the deed)

lds also has
       Peter Klopp b l695 Bingen am rhein, d l753 Pa buried Klopp farm son of Jhann Hans Barthel klopp and Maria Catharina Juncker she be c l699. Elsewhere theys ay Uelda is the wife.
       1. Elizabeth l7l5 to l784
       2. Daniel l7l7 Bingen
       3. Klopp l72l
       4. Susan l72l Bigen
       5. Frederick l723 Bigen
       6. Johan Peter l7l9 Bingen d May 22, l794 Hain’s ch near wernersville Berks Pa

trying to make this into a family
       (It seems that all the Peter Klops of Tulpehocken in this line have lived and died in Tulpehocken)
              immigrants;
Peter l695 Binben am Rhein m Velda (so lds)
              Peter Klop and Jacob Klopp arrived at Tulpehocken after 1723 (pos Palatinate from NY?))but Bio of Berks says Peter Klop ref membe rTulpehocken l735, no source cited.
              1741 Peter Klopp came on the ship Lydia Sept 29, 1741
              1746 Peter Klopp and wife (not named) baptize dau Christina barbara l746 Trinity ev luth, New Holland.
              1748 George Klob (sic) bapt May of Peter and Margaret at Zeltsenriech reformed Earl twp (near Tulpehocken)
              1752 Peter Klop and wife Maudlin land to Nicholas Zerfas all of Cocalico twp
              1753 Peter Klop will. Orphans ct does not say, but others say children Susanna l7l6, dau l748, and Peter jr d May 22, 1794 Berks co Pa
              1753 Peter Klop’s will of Cocalico twp. Ex Peter Klop and Jacob Sensseman of Cocalico twp. Brother Derrick Klop. Son in law Jacob Horsberger.
              1756 report of troops at Daniel Shue’s or Peter Klop’s

Peter Klop
       emigrated l74l
       wife Maudlin
       d 1753
              l. John Peter Klop Nov 22, 17l9 m Margaret (baptism l748) Or Werrine (baptism l757 sponsors). Unnamed wife, widow of John Heil deceased (so l76l orphans ct). He d May 22, l794 buried Hain’s church. Wife Werrima Becker b l7l8 Dannstadt Pfalz d l792. Pa              
              1763 Peter Klop and wife unnamed sponsors of Johan Peter of Balser and Christiana Lesch. These are the children of Peter’s new wife widow Heil.
                     1. Christina Barbara l746
                     2. George l748
                     3. Johann Peter III Heidelberg twp l75l d there Feb 24, l835. M l800
              2. Elizabeth, before l729 Thecla (convent name) d Oct 6, l784 probably at Ephrata.
              3. (Lds adds) Daniel Klopp l7l7
              4. (Lds) Susan l72l
              5. (Lds) Frederick l723 Bigen
Clubb
       1734 warrant, surveyed l74l for Peter Clubb 85 acres between Tulpehoccan and Sustara Creek.
       1735 Lancaster mortgage mentions neighbor at Swhatawro creek adj Peter Clubb’s settlement (sic) This would imply that Peter Clubb is on the land l735.
       1738 Lancaster Warrants Peter Clubb l00 acres returned June l74l. Adj his other land
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re your question about whether he had a will in l753 in Penn and then moved to NC. The will was proven in Penn, so he died there. Besides our Peter Clubb of Nc had will l784 (if I remember the date right).
I don't know how much space one can type in for gen.com so let me send you another followup with the deeds etc for Peter and the mentions of early Clubbs.
       


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