Did not know if you got connected up Cromer/Heller, but I am still searching and posting what I find. I have about 30,000+ names but this week it seems about all I do is check on infected files and virus notices. Some idiot out there does have enough to do. I also noticed that there are some Glymph surnames in this history and as you know, they are connected to the Heller family. If I find out from our cousin where this came from, I will let you know. Right now she is in and out of the hospital and I don't want to bother her. About 6 months ago, I wrote some of the Heller surnames in Greenville, S.C. but they did not seem to think there is any connection. ASAP I am going to Anderson County (SC) library and check there since that is where Rod indicated some of the family was located. There are also many Riser/Cromer connections and I am finding that at least 3 of my surnames, maternal and paternal, are connected. Keep in touch, cousin! I have discontinued the listed e-mail Lib72@bellsouth.net, but my default is firstname.lastname@example.org so it throws everything to me anyway, thank goodness.