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Re: Thomas Daniell brother in law of the first Howard Duke of Norfolk.
Posted by: Lee Daniels (ID *****6084) Date: March 05, 2010 at 01:50:26
In Reply to: Thomas Daniell brother in law of the first Howard Duke of Norfolk. by Graham Pratten of 587

Hi Graham,

My family originated around the Bedfordshire/Buckinghamshire border and there is a hotspot for the Daniels/Daniells surname in this area out of the whole of England. Some think this is due to the Tabley Daniels settling in Flitton/Silsoe, Bucks at Newbury/Newberry manor in the 1500's. I trace my family to a Thomas Daniel born about 1765 in Shenley, Bucks. After his 1st wife died he married again and had more sons. The line from the 1st wife changed their surname to Daniels and those from the second line to Daniells.
The Bucks/Beds Flitton Daniels use the same coat of arms as the D'Anyers/Daniels of Cheshire. The county of Bedfordshire was visited in 1634 by the officers of the college of arms for the purpose of recording the pedigrees of the gentry entitled to bear arms. During this visitation the officers were satisfied that the Daniels of Newbury manor in Flitton were descended from the D'Anyers of Cheshire and so were listed in the document, together with their arms.
We could be related further back and related to the Daniels of Cheshire but this would require DNA comparison which I have done at family tree DNA [ www.familytreedna.com ] and I am part of the Daniels surname DNA project [ www.danieldna.50g.com ]. My participating line is Thomas Daniel kit no 13863. I have tested to 67 markers and it would be interesting to compare our DNA to see if the Beds/Bucks Daniels and Suffolk/Essex Daniels all come from a common ancestor. If you decide to do DNA testing the links I have provided should help you out. Sorry I couldn't be of any more help. Please let me know if you go ahead with the testing, I would be very interested !

The Flitton/Silsoe family tree is shown below:

Generation No. 1
1. Edward Daniell
Children of Edward Daniell are:
2 Thomas Daniell.
+ 3 Stephen Daniell d. bef 5 Jan 1632.

Generation No. 2
3. Stephen Daniell d. bef 5 Jan 1632. md. Elizabeth Hewett.

Children of Stephen Daniell and Elizabeth Hewett:
+ 4 Richard Daniell.
+ 5 Edward Daniell "the dyer" chr. 16 Apr 1582 in Eng Bedford Flitton With Silsoe, d. bef 28 Jan 1642/43 in Eng London St. Martin Vintry.
+ 6 Thomas Daniell chr. 17 Mar 1582/3 in Eng Bedford Flitton With Silsoe.
7 Alice Daniell chr. 27 Jun 1584 in Eng Bedford Flitton With Silsoe.
8 Judith Daniell chr. 24 Oct 1585 in Eng Bedford Flitton With Silsoe. md. --- Fisher.
9 Dorothy Daniell chr. 18 Feb 1589/90 in Eng Bedford Flitton With Silsoe.
10 William Daniell "goldsmith Of London" chr. 25 Apr 1592 in Eng Bedford Flitton With Silsoe, d. bef 15 Jul 1652 in Eng London Foster Lane. md. Susan/Susannah Banckes, daughter of Humfry Banckes. She was chr. 1 May 1589 in Eng London St Vedast Foster Lane and St Michael Le Querne.
11 George Daniell.
+ 12 Stephen Daniell.
13 Elizabeth Daniell chr. 12 Apr 1583 in Eng Bedford Flitton With Silsoe.

Generation No. 3
4. Richard Daniell md. Joane ---.

Children of Richard Daniell and Joane are:
14 Elizabeth Daniell chr. 9 Mar 1609/10 in Eng Bedford Flitton With Silsoe. md. Richard King.
15 John Daniell chr. 18 Dec 1610 in Eng Bedford Flitton With Silsoe.
16 Richard Daniell chr. 10 Oct 1613 in Eng Bedford Flitton With Silsoe.
17 George Daniell chr. 10 Oct 1616 in Eng Bedford Flitton With Silsoe.
18 Anne Daniell chr. 8 May 1621 in Eng Bedford Flitton With Silsoe. md. Francis Fitzhugh.

5. Edward Daniell "the dyer" chr. 16 Apr 1582 in Eng Bedford Flitton With Silsoe, d. bef 28 Jan 1642/43 in Eng London St. Martin Vintry. md. Elizabeth Skeete Skite 17 Feb 1611/2 in Eng London, daughter of Edward Skeete Skite. She d. bef 20 Jul 1652 in Eng London.

Children of Edward Daniell "the dyer" and Elizabeth Skeete/Skite are:
19 John Daniell.
20 Edward Daniell.
+ 21 Suzan Daniell.
+ 22 Hannah Daniell.
+ 23 Elizabeth Daniell.

6. Thomas Daniell chr. 17 Mar 1582/3 in Eng Bedford Flitton With Silsoe. md.1 Dorothey Duncomb. md.2 Anne Roberts, daughter of Edward Roberts.

Children of Thomas Daniell and Dorothey Duncomb:
24 Dorothey Daniell. md. Thomas Butts 27 Jun 1639 in Eng London St. Benet Pauls Wharf.
25 Elizabeth Daniell.
Children of Thomas Daniell and Anne Roberts:
26 Suzan Daniell.
27 Mary Daniell.
28 ?Edward Daniell chr. 2 Jun 1642 in Eng Bedford Flitton With Silsoe.
Apprentice HABERDASHER Edward Daniell son of Thomas Daniell of Silso in the County of Bedford Esq to John Hatch 7 yeares 10 feb 1658/9


       29 ?William Daniell.

12. Stephen Daniell

Children of Stephen Daniell are:
30 Stephen Daniell.
31 Thomas Daniell.
32 Joane Daniell.
33 Elizabeth Daniell.
34 William Daniell.

Generation No. 4

21. Suzan Daniell md. Andrew Bidgood 2 Dec 1632 in Eng London Saint Martin-Vintry.

Child of Suzan Daniell and Andrew Bidgood:
35 Elizabeth Bidgood.

22. Hannah Daniell md. Humfrey Gould 2 Nov 1639 in Eng London St. Martin Vintry.

Child of Hannah Daniell and Humfrey Gould:
36 Hannah Gould.

23. Elizabeth Daniell md. Henry Raper 26 Apr 1640 in Eng London St. Martin Vintry.

Children of Elizabeth Daniell and Henry Raper are:
37 Elizabeth Raper.
38 Susan Raper.


FYI, William the goldsmith didn't name any children of his own in his will, just earlier children of his wife Susanna. But he does name tons of his siblings' children and their marriages and lines.


All the best,
Lee Daniels


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