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Quebec pioneer David aka Pontife
Posted by: Janet Manseau (ID *****2030) Date: August 26, 2010 at 10:42:55
  of 1745

Hi, I am posting the data and notes that I have for some of my pioneer ancestors, in hopes that they may be of interest to some of you that are doing research on your ancestors.

Descendants of Jacques-Laurent David-dit-Pontife
Compiled by Janet Manseau Donaldson
Use as a guide

Generation No. 1

       1. Jacques-Laurent13 David-dit-Pontife (Blaise12 David, Rambert11, Pierre10, Claude-De-St-Rambert9, Henri8, Betrand7, Pierre6, Guillaume5, Jean4, Gilles(Gillis)3, Pierre2, Julien-de-St-Etienne1) was born about 1632 in Notre Dame de Bracquemont, Dieppe, Rouen, Normandie, France, and died Bef. 10 Feb 1681 in Château Richer, Montmorency QC. He married Marie Granderie/Grandin 29 Aug 1662 in Château Richer, Montmorency, QC, daughter of Claude Grandin and Jeanne Toussaint. She was born about 1646 in St. Andre des Arts, Paris, France, and died 29 Jun 1728 in Château Richer, Montmorency QC.

Notes for Jacques-Laurent David-dit-Pontife:
Jacques was born about 1632 in the parish of Notre Dame in Braquemont (near Dieppe, archdiocese of Rouen), Normandie, the son of Blaise David and Flavie Morel. He was confirmed as being at Château-Richer on 11 April 1662.
He is listed in the 1666 Beaupre census as an "mathelot califateur" (a sailor and ship repairman). His job was to caulk the seams between the wood planks to make them water tight. In those days they used hemp rope and forced it in between the planks with a chisel. The rope would swell up and keep the water out. In the 1667 Beaupre census he was recorded as being 35 years old an Marie was 22. They had 8 arpents of land under cultivation and two cows.
Jacques David dit Pontiffe died at Chateau Richer some time before 10 Feb 1681.

Jette's Spéculation:
p. 312, 1re colonne
DAVID dit PONTIFE, Jacques
* m 1662
GRANDIN, Marie

Ascendance de Jacques David

2. Blaise-Didier DAVID
3. Flavie MOREL
4. Rambert DAVID, notaire royal
5. Benoîte JULIEN, m 1597
8. Pierre DAVID, m 1556
9. ... PEYRETTIER
16. Claude DAVID, de St-Rambert
17. ... PARIS
32. Henri DAVID
33. Anaïs/Anna de BOIS BOURDON
64. Bertrand DAVID
128. Pierre DAVID, d 12-10-1441
129. Marie ANDYÈRE
256. Guillaume DAVID
512. Jean DAVID
1024. Gilles/Gillis DAVID, n vers 1260/1270
1025. Hermancia DORENT
2048. Pierre DAVID, n vers 1230
2049. ... DINET
4096. Julien DAVID, de St-Étienne



Notes for Marie Granderie/Grandin:
"Filles à Marier", page 160, Marie Grandry was born about 1645 in parish of Saint-André-des-Arts in Paris, the daughter of Claude Grandry and Jeanne Toussain. She came to New France in 1662.
On 29 August 1662, Marie married Jacques David dit Pontiffe at Château-Richer. No marriage contract has been found for this couple. It is not known if Marie could sign her name, but her husband could.
Marie Grandry was buried 29 June 1728 at Château-Richer.


       
Children of Jacques-Laurent David-dit-Pontife and Marie Granderie/Grandin are:
+       2       i.       Marie14 David-dit-Pontife, born 05 Dec 1663 in Château Richer, Montmorency, QC; died 06 Mar 1706 in Québec City, QC.
+       3       ii.       Jean David-dit-Pontife, born 12 Oct 1665 in Château Richer, Montmorency, QC; died 08 Apr 1703 in Château Richer, Montmorency, QC.
       4       iii.       Marguerite David-dit-Pontife, born 02 Nov 1667 in Château Richer, Montmorency, QC; died 16 Feb 1754 in Château Richer, Montmorency, QC. She married (1) Joseph Lesot 21 Nov 1689 in Château Richer, Montmorency QC; born 18 Jun 1666 in Château Richer, Montmorency, QC; died 12 Dec 1700 in Château Richer, Montmorency, QC. She married (2) Pierre Chapelain 10 Jun 1704 in Château Richer, Montmorency QC; born 30 May 1681 in St. Laurent de l'Île d'Orléans, QC.
+       5       iv.       Jeanne David-dit-Pontife, born 05 Nov 1669 in Château Richer, Montmorency, QC; died 11 Nov 1698 in Château Richer, Montmorency, QC.
       6       v.       Jacques David-dit-Pontife, born 22 Dec 1670 in Château Richer, Montmorency, QC.
       7       vi.       Marie-Anne David-dit-Pontife, born 07 Jun 1672 in Château Richer, Montmorency, QC; died 07 May 1711 in Château Richer, Montmorency, QC. She married (1) Vincent Gagnon 12 Oct 1694 in Château Richer, Montmorency QC; born 27 Aug 1658 in Québec City, QC; died 26 Nov 1708 in Château Richer, Montmorency, QC. She married (2) Noel Toupin 17 Feb 1710 in Château Richer, Montmorency QC; born 20 Apr 1683 in Château Richer, Montmorency, QC; died 16 Aug 1759 in Montréal, QC.


Generation No. 2

       2. Marie14 David-dit-Pontife (Jacques-Laurent13, Blaise12 David, Rambert11, Pierre10, Claude-De-St-Rambert9, Henri8, Betrand7, Pierre6, Guillaume5, Jean4, Gilles(Gillis)3, Pierre2, Julien-de-St-Etienne1) was born 05 Dec 1663 in Château Richer, Montmorency, QC, and died 06 Mar 1706 in Québec City, QC. She married (1) Noel Favron/Faveron 10 Feb 1681 in Château Richer, Montmorency QC (ct 31 Oct 1680, Gilles Rageot), son of Nocolas Favron/Faveron and Julienne Fabrion. He was born about 1654 in Dol, St. Malo, Bretagne, France, and died 21 Mar 1688 in Québec City, QC. She married (2) Jacques Boutret-dit-Dubois, (Jean & Cath. Obley) 19 Oct 1688 in Québec City, QC ((ct 16, Giles Rageot). He was born 01 Apr 1655 in Heudicourt (St. Sulpice), France, and died Bet. 07 Apr 1701 - 10 Aug 1702 in Québec City, QC. She married (3) Joseph Brodiere 12 Aug 1702 in Notre Dame de Québec City, QC (ct 10, Chambalon). He was born about 1670 in Angers, Anjou, France, and died 02 Aug 1724 in Québec City, QC.
       
Children of Marie David-dit-Pontife and Noel Favron/Faveron are:
       8       i.       Marie-Francoise15 Favron/Faveron, born 21 Jan 1682 in Québec City, QC; died 23 Nov 1717 in Hôtel Dieu de Québec City, QC. She married Laurent Huot-dit-St.Laurent 03 Nov 1699 in Notre Dame de Québec City, QC (ct 2, Charles Rageot); born 29 Jan 1673 in Château Richer, Montmorency QC; died Bef. 26 Aug 1738 in Unknown, QC.
       9       ii.       Marie-Angelique Favron/Faveron, born 01 Aug 1683 in Québec City, QC; died 06 Feb 1753 in Québec City, QC. She married Rene Hubert 01 Sep 1718 in Québec City, QC; born about 1647 in Paris, France; died 31 Aug 1725 in Québec City, QC.
       10       iii.       Vincent Favron/Faveron, born 06 Sep 1684 in Québec City, QC; died 26 Jun 1693 in Québec City, QC.

Notes for Vincent Favron/Faveron:
He drowned.

       11       iv.       Noel Favron/Faveron, born 13 Apr 1686 in Québec City, QC; died 21 Sep 1687 in Québec City, QC.
       12       v.       Marie-Jeanne Favron/Faveron, born 31 Jul 1687 in Québec City, QC; died 08 May 1717 in Québec City, QC. She married David Corbin 28 Feb 1707 in Québec City, QC; born 10 Feb 1684 in Beauport, QC; died 01 Oct 1755 in Québec City, QC.


       3. Jean14 David-dit-Pontife (Jacques-Laurent13, Blaise12 David, Rambert11, Pierre10, Claude-De-St-Rambert9, Henri8, Betrand7, Pierre6, Guillaume5, Jean4, Gilles(Gillis)3, Pierre2, Julien-de-St-Etienne1) was born 12 Oct 1665 in Château Richer, Montmorency, QC, and died 08 Apr 1703 in Château Richer, Montmorency, QC. He married Marie-Anne Provost/Prevost, (Louis &Fran.Gagnon) 04 Nov 1692 in Château Richer, Montmorency, QC. She was born about 1676 in Unknown, QC.
       
Children of Jean David-dit-Pontife and Marie-Anne Provost/Prevost are:
       13       i.       Marie15 David-dit-Pontife, born 06 Jun 1695 in Château Richer, Montmorency, QC; died 15 Apr 1755 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC. She married Gervais Rochon/Rocheron 12 Nov 1714 in Château Richer, Montmorency QC; born 19 Jun 1688 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; died 08 Apr 1736 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC.
       14       ii.       Therese David-dit-Pontife, born 19 Dec 1698 in Château Richer, Montmorency, QC; died 17 Apr 1743 in St. Augustin, QC. She married Jacques Rochon/Rocheron 08 Nov 1723 in Château Richer, Montmorency QC; born 12 Sep 1692 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; died 20 Nov 1771 in St. Augustin, QC.


       5. Jeanne14 David-dit-Pontife (Jacques-Laurent13, Blaise12 David, Rambert11, Pierre10, Claude-De-St-Rambert9, Henri8, Betrand7, Pierre6, Guillaume5, Jean4, Gilles(Gillis)3, Pierre2, Julien-de-St-Etienne1) was born 05 Nov 1669 in Château Richer, Montmorency, QC, and died 11 Nov 1698 in Château Richer, Montmorency, QC. She married Germain Gagnon 27 Jul 1688 in Château Richer, Montmorency, QC, son of Jean Gagnon and Marguerite Cochon. He was born 01 Sep 1653 in Québec City, QC, and died 23 Nov 1708 in Château Richer, Montmorency, QC.
       
Child of Jeanne David-dit-Pontife and Germain Gagnon is:
       15       i.       Genevieve15 Gagnon, born 25 Jun 1693 in Château Richer, Montmorency, QC; died 05 Jul 1759 in Petite Rivière St. François, QC. She married Paul Simard-dit-Lombrette 10 Jun 1716 in Unknown, QC; born 25 Nov 1681 in Baie St. Paul, Charlevoix, QC; died 15 Aug 1733 in Baie St. Paul, Charlevoix, QC.


My resources are limited because I live in Oregon. I hope that you use this information only as a guide. I welcome corrections and additions from anyone that has access to the original files.

Originally I paid a genealogy society to trace the direct lines for 6 of my 8 great grandparents. They used the books that were compiled by volunteers for each parish. Because so many individuals had the same name, I eventually found some errors in these books. Then I used Tanguay and found out that he may be about 75% right and Jette (that goes to 1730) is about 90% right. Then just as I thought that I was finished, I found PRDH (University of Montreal) and I believe that they may be 98% right and still make corrections to their records. They go up to 1799 for marriage contracts and 1850 for some deaths. Some people have the luxury of having the original records at their disposal. I do not have that and with 17,000 individuals in my data base, I can not afford to pay for copies of all the originals. At that point I confirmed every that I had with the records at PRDH. Whenever I say “about” for a birth date it means that PRDH did not find it or if it is in the 1800s, I did not look it up because of my lack of resources.

PRDH uses the most common spelling variation for the names. This makes it easier to trace the families. They do not always use the original name that appears on the contracts or birth records. That is ok with me, because many individuals before the 1900s could not sign their names and did not even care how others spelt it. As a result the same person’s name took on a variety of spellings. I also kept the “dit” (aka) names because eventually brothers from the same family, picked a different aka name.

As for the pioneers, I also used Peter Gagné’s English books on the single girls that arrived in New France between 1634 & 1662 and his book on the single girls that are referred to as the King’s Daughters that arrived between 1663 & 1673. These girls were recruited and paid by the King to go to New France (Québec) to get married and colonize the area.

Most of my information for the 1800-1900s comes from people on the web. The program that I use does not allow for baptismal dates, so if I don’t have a birth date, I use the baptismal date. The same goes for death vs. burial dates and actual wedding vs. contract dates. The newer programs have these features, but I will not be going through 18,000 records to make the changes.

It is like I said in the beginning; use this information as a guide only. I view genealogy as a hobby and not as pure science.

As for the stories, I got them all in French on the web and I translated them for my grandchildren. I had not read or spoken French in over 40 years, so it was difficult and may not be the best translation.

Enjoy, Janet











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