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Re: Elizabeth Baker & Andrew DeBord
Posted by: Sue (ID *****0047) Date: January 22, 2008 at 12:53:09
In Reply to: Elizabeth Baker & Andrew DeBord by Cathy Reeves of 780


The Elizabeth Betsey Baker who has been identified as the daughter of Samuel Baker and Mary Barbara Shirley has been claimed and documented by another family. While it is not known who the parents of ELIZABETH "BETSEY" BAKER-DEBORD were, it is highly likely that she belonged to the Yellow Baker DNA group.

Here’s the short version as it stands: the DNA studies to-date (coupled with the comprehensive research conducted by the Yellow and Orange DNA Baker family researchers) suggest that there is one Baker patriarch - ROBERT BAKER - of Montgomery /Washington Co VA who very well could have been the progenitor of our Elizabeth “Betsey” Baker (and possibly the Susannah Baker who married Cornelius Debord – s/o Reuben listed below). This Robert Baker lived near Andrew Baker Esq (ca 1720); he was of the same age-range as Andrew Esq; he has no known connection with the Orange Humphrey Bakers in the area; and he appears on the 1782 Montgomery Co. Personal Property Tax records along with younger Yellow Robert Baker. Although circumstantial, much of the information that’s been uncovered suggests that he may have been a brother of Andrew Baker Esq – which would have made him a Yellow DNA Baker. While it is unlikely – due to age - that this Robert Baker would have been the father of Elizabeth Betsey Baker, there were some younger Yellow DNA male Baker’s of the Montgomery/ Washington Co region during the later 1700’s whose parentage has not yet been determined. These men do not trace to Andrew Esq, and the only other known candidate in the region would have been Robert (i.e., Robert Baker could have been Elizabeth Betsey Baker’s grandfather). If Robert is the missing Yellow patriarch, it would certainly help explain the migration patterns of the Baker’s of VA/NC/TN/KY/IL. I can provide you more information about this group if you’d like to write me directly.

As for the father of ANDREW DEBORD Sr the only thing I might add to Hurshel’s information (and he really is the expert on the Debord clan) is that the family of Martin Debord appears to have been closest to the descendants of James Debord 1755 of Franklin Co NC, and Reuben Debord 1758 of Washington Co VA . As such, there has been speculation through the years that Andrew Debord Sr. was either an unidentified child (as per the census) of James Debord 1755 -or- that he was actually Amos Debord 1786, son of Reuben, who disappeared around the same time that Andrew Sr. is believed to have died. I am not entirely convinced that ANDREW was actually the given name of George and Martin Debord’s father. Rather, I think that the name on the death certificate of Martin Debord may have been confused with that of ANDREW BAKER.

I also think that some of the answers to the Andrew Debord Sr and Elizabeth Betsey Baker mystery may lie in Carter, Hawkins, or Claiborne Co’s Tennessee where some of the Yellow DNA Baker’s (Martin Debord’s wife, SARAH ELIZABETH BAKER, was a Yellow Baker whose family moved up to KY from TN) resided for a time during the late 18th and early 19th centuries and where George Washington Debord may have been born.

If this seems confusing, it is, and it gets worse… however, the good news is that DNA research has really proven invaluable in terms of the Baker research and has moved things along by leaps and bounds. As for Debord DNA -it likely wouldn’t be very helpful as it is expected that all the early Debord families of the southeast trace back to James Deboarde ca 1640 of Richmond Co VA and accordingly, the male descendants would all have somewhat undifferentiated Y markers. Hope that helps, Sue

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