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Re: Genealogy of Catherine Dachsteder (1781-1856)
Posted by: Charles Julian (ID *****7539) Date: June 02, 2007 at 23:52:20
In Reply to: Re: Genealogy of Catherine Dachsteder (1781-1856) by Charles Julian of 187

Updates:


1) JOHN STEVENS

I finally got a copy of the Loyalist Gazette article on John Stevens UE ( Robert C. McBride, "Suffering Everything But Death" Spring & Fall 1995 ) and while I disagree with the conclusions about John Stevens' origins and children there is also some valuable new information in it, including the will of John Stevens (1804) and additional children mentioned therein.

First some of the points on which I disagree:

- There is little to indicate that John Stevens UE of Stone Arabia is the same John Stevens who was naturalized in 1759 and married Catherine Gleason, since the names of three of the four children baptized by John and Catharine Stevens in New York City ( Johann Andreas 1762, Friedrich Abraham 1764, George Henrich 1765 ) are not mentioned in connection with John Stevens UE, in Home District or otherwise, and the fourth child ( Elizabeth 1766 ) is almost certainly a different person than the Elizabeth who married Frederick Dochstader. From the citation given it appears that Henry Z. Jones and Lewis Rohrbach have merged two John Stevens as a single person in their Even More Palatine Families book. This error is easy enough to make, one John Stevens being Palatine ( or at least German ) and living in NYC, the other John Stevens living among the Palatines in Stone Arabia NY, but the evidence of parish records, and now also of the will, I think makes clear these are two different people.

[ It's worth noting too that the John Stevens who married Catharine Gleason 16 SEP 1755 at Trinity Church Parish in NYC probably belongs to a large English Stevens family that was evidently in attendance at this church for many years. The four children mentioned above were more likely the children of "Joh. Henrich Stivens" who married Anna Catharine Groot 20 APR 1755 at Christ Lutheran Church NYC, the same church where two of the children were later baptized. Johann Henrich Stephens is recorded as "Jan Stivens" at Georg Henrich's baptism and as "Joh. Henrich Stevens / Stephen / Stivens" at the others; he and Catharine also had a fourth son "Joh. Elias Stephen" baptized 14 DEC 1760 at Lutheran Church NYC ]

- Notes, specifically a citation for Allen R. Lewis's draft genealogical notes on descendants of Philip Young UE, indicate that John Stevens' wife Anna Maria was formerly the wife of Philip Young, and that the three children of Philip and Mary were 1. Jacob Young "born circa 1757 who was married by 1781", 2. Philip Young, and 3. Elisabeth Young. The latter two are the children of Philip Sr whose births are found recorded in the Stone Arabia church records but I'm not sure who Jacob Young is and puzzle over the source for his inclusion. If there is evidence that Philip Young had a son Jacob or any additional children it could potentially help clear up some of the mystery surrounding his family.

- An argument is made that Elizabeth Young, daughter of Philip Young, is not the Elizabeth who married Frederick Dochstader on the basis that she was born too early. The source in the article, again from Allen R. Lewis's draft notes, gives Elizabeth Young as "baptized 12 December 1763". However, Clifford M. Young's "The Young Families of the Mohawk Valley", which lists all surviving Young surname entries on record at the Mohawk Valley parishes, gives the following entry in full:

"Infant-Elisabetha; B.-December 12, 1764; Bp.-January 11, 1765; Parents-Philipp Jung and wife, Anna Maria; Sponsors-Elisabeth Franckin and Geo. Henrich Bell"

Which puts this Elizabeth's birth, not her baptism, two days before the date indicated on Elizabeth's gravestone. Since the baptism was performed a month after the birth the pastor might easily have written 12 instead of 14 for the birthdate. In light of this difference, of two days, I think it far more likely that Elizabeth Young Stevens was the daughter of Philip Young rather than the Elizabeth baptized by a John and Catherine Stevens 1766 in NYC ( and whose four brothers must in that case all have died after their baptisms, if the two John Stevens are to be made the same person in keeping with the Jones-Rohrbach placement ). As well it appears that Elizabeth is not mentioned in John Stevens' will of 1804 ( in contrast to the other children ) and that _this_ is the earlier source of the argument about whether Elizabeth Young Stevens is a Young or a Stevens ( rather than the Van Every genealogies, which were my best guess at the time ).

That being said, there is also some valuable new information in McBride's article, particularily in documentation from Upper Canada:

- Philip Young states in his 1796 petition that he is the step-son of John Stevens of Stamford ( heretofore I had it only as notes )

- John Stevens states in his own petition that he lived on the Susquehanna River in Pennsylvania prior to coming to Upper Canada ( which might account for his and his wife's disappearance from Stone Arabia following the birth of their first child; see the article for John's account of being dragged down the river by Patriots )

- John Stevens' will of 1804 lists, in addition to John Stevens Jr and Mary Stevens Couchenour, a son William Stevens and a daughter Fiona Stevens who married Solomon Quick. Hopefully these two additional Stevens have numerous mtDNA and Y-DNA descendants around who can perhaps resolve Elizabeth's maternal ancestry or else confirm John Stevens' placement with the Stevens family of Schenectady.


2) YOUNG FAMILY

I've gone through the Mohawk Valley Young families again and put the sum of these records in order. Unfortunately ( or fortunately, since this is more interesting ) my earlier default placement of Philip Young as a son of Theobald Young has been compromised; the traditional outline of the Young family needs an overhaul.

i) There were two Adam Youngs living in the Mohawk Valley before the Revolution: "Adam Young Sr" and "Adam Young Jr". Both Adam Youngs lived at or near Canajoharie. Adam Young Jr was not the son of Adam Young Sr ( owing to considerations of age ) but rather the younger of two Adam Youngs; he is probably a son of Theobald's brother Hendrick since his family seems to have had ties to the family of Hendrick's son Jacob ( 1710-1794 ) in Minden. The first name Theobald turns up in Adam Young Jr's line even more than it does in Adam Young UE's line so a Dunzweiler Jung family connection seems likely.

ii) Adam Young Jr married 1st Polly Crain ( probably the daughter of his neighbour on the Van Horne Patent, "Ludowick Crane" House 22, "Adam Young" House 23 ), and they had at least two sons: Lodowick Young and Jacob A. Young. A daughter Polly Young is also mentioned in the Jacob A. Young family narrative, which is related in Clifford M. Young's book on the Mohawk Valley Young families ( Appendix A ). Polly Crain died some time before 1762, by which time Adam Young Jr had remarried to Anna Margaretha ( -- ). Adam and Anna Margaretha then had at least a son George b. 1771, a daughter Margaret who married John Wick, and a daughter Catherine who married Leonard Eckler. During the Revolutionary War Adam Young Jr's family sided with the Patriots rather than the Loyalists and were at one point forced to abandon their farm along the Mohawk. Adam resided Canajoharie in the 1790 census and died before FEB 1798 when his wife is listed as a widow in the records of the Lutheran St Paul's Church in Minden.

Lodowick ( Ludwig, Lewis ) Young was probably the eldest of Adam's sons by Polly; he married { Unknown } and begat Jacob L. Young, Lodowick Jr, Johann Christian Young, Johann Gerhart Young, and at least three daughters. Lodowick's brother Jacob A. Young ( 1755-1833 ) married Eva Knieskern, whose father, "Cotfret Kniskern of Conajoharra", enlisted 17 JAN with Adam Young in Captain Nicholas Veeder's company of Carpenters in Service of the United States of America. Jacob A. Young and Eva Knieskern were the parents of Jacob, Lodowick J, George, John, Daniel, Theobald and Eva Young. George Young ( 1771- ? ) married Anna Margaretha ( -- ) and they were the parents of at least Margaretha, Catharine, Jacob, Maria and Josiah Young. A preliminary chart of members of this family current to about 1812 is below.


1 Adam Young of the Squake, b. after 1717 [ hence Jr ] d. before FEB 1798 NY.
. . . + Polly Crain
. . . . . . 2 Lodowick or Lewis Young [ fought in two of the four Tryon County reg's of miltia; also enlisted as carpenter ]
. . . . . . . . . + Unknown
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 Johann Christian Jung
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . + Anna Scott
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 Jacob Jung b. 09 JAN 1797, chr. 22 JAN 1797 Stone Arabia NY ( sp: Jacob Scott & Elisabeth Eaker )
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 Theobald Young b. 17 JAN 1799, chr. 24 JAN 1799 Minden NY ( sp: Johann Gerhard Young & Rebecca Scott )
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 Jacob Young
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . + Elizabeth Scott
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 Maria Jung b. 30 MAR 1799 Stone Arabia NY ( sp: Ludwig Jung & Anna )
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 Lodewick Young b. 09 AUG 1802 Stone Arabia NY ( sp: Lodewick Young Jr & Peggy Scott )
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 Lodowick or Lewis Young
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . + Anna Plantz
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 Daniel Jung b. 11 APR 1800 Stone Arabia NY ( sp: Jacob Walrat & Maria )
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 Maria Young b. 10 MAR 1803 Stone Arabia NY ( sp: William Wohlgemuth & Maria Contraman )
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 Johann Gerhard Young
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 Dau Young
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 Dau Young
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 Dau Young
. . . . . . 2 Jacob A. Young b. 06 APR 1755 Canajoharie NY, d. 26 MAY 1833 Stark, Herkimer NY.
. . . . . . . . . + Eva Knieskern
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 Jacob Jung b. 23 DEC 1783, chr. 12 JAN 1784 German Flatts NY ( sp: Johann Jost Snell & Margaretha Jung )
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . + Eva Ostrander
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 Peter Young b. 27 AUG 1807, chr. 20 SEP 1807 Minden NY ( sp: Jacob Young Sen. & wife Eva )
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 John Young b. 01 APR 1810, chr. 21 APR 1810 Fort Plain NY ( sp: John G. Shall & wife Anna )
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 Lodowick or Lewis J. Young b. 1787 NY.
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 George Young b. 18 DEC 1789, chr. 24 JAN 1790 St Johnsville NY ( sp: George Young & Eva Knieskern )
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 Johannes Young chr. 05 FEB 1792 St Johnsville NY ( sp: Eva Young & Johannes Knieskern )
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 Daniel Young b. 30 NOV 1794, chr. 14 DEC 1794 Minden NY ( sp: Leonard Eckler & wife Catharina )
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 Theobald Young b. 18 SEP 1797, chr. 22 OCT 1797 Minden NY ( sp: Henrich Eckler Jr & wife Maria )
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 Eva Young b. 07 MAR 1803, chr. 19 MAR 1803 Minden NY ( sp: Peter Ricker & Dorothy Young )
. . . . . . 2 Polly Young
. . . + Anna Margaretha before 1762.
. . . . . . 2 Catherine Young
. . . . . . . . . + Leonhard Eckler 11 MAR 1787 Fort Plain NY.
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 Jacob Eggler chr. 12 SEP 1790 Saint Johnsville NY ( sp: Jacob Young & Eva )
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 Johann Adam Eckler b. 09 JUN 1795, chr. 28 JUN 1795 Minden NY.
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 Johannes Eckler b. 06 JAN 1803, chr. 23 JAN 1803 Minden NY ( sp: John Rickert & Dorothy Young )
. . . . . . 2 Margaretha Young
. . . . . . . . . + John Wick of Otsquago
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 Margaretha Wick b. 07 JAN 1796, chr. 07 FEB 1796 Minden NY ( sp: George Young & wife Margretha )
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 Johannes Wick b. 16 SEP 1797, chr. 17 SEP 1797 Minden NY.
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 Jacob Wick b. 18 MAR 1799, chr. 25 MAR 1799 Minden NY ( sp: Jacob Young & wife Eva )
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 Margaret Wick b. 14 MAY 1801, chr. 25 MAY 1801 Minden NY.
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 Henrich Wick b. 02 MAT 1803, chr. 15 MAY 1803 Minden NY.
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 Maria Wick b. 04 NOV 1806, chr. 09 NOV 1806 Minden NY.
. . . . . . 2 George Jung b. 08 FEB 1771, chr. 08 MAR 1771 Stone Arabia NY ( sp: George Snell & Anna Eva )
. . . . . . . . . + Margaretha ( before 1796 )
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 Margaretha Young b. 24 JAN 1799, chr. 03 FEB 1799 Minden NY ( sp: John Wick & wife Margaretha )
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 Catharine Young b. 03 AUG 1801, chr. 23 AUG 1801 Minden NY ( sp: Leonard Eckler & wife Catharine )
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 Jacob Young b. 08 FEB 1804, chr. 18 MAR 1804 Minden NY ( sp: Jacob Young Jr & Sophia Van Horne )
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 Maria Young b. 06 MAR 1810, chr. 01 APR 1810 Minden NY ( sp: Margaretha Bernhard )
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 Josia Young b. 27 AUG 1812, chr. 04 OCT 1812 Minden NY ( sp: Johannes Walter & wife Anna )


Adam Young Jr was a carpenter and is probably the Adam Young that was connected with the building of the Sand Hill Church at Fort Plain; Jacob Young ( b. 1710, son of Hendrick ) is the one who purchased land on the Bleecker Patent that was set aside for the building of this church. It should also be noted that Jacob A. Young ( Jacob Adamse Young ) is not the same person as Jacob J. Young ( Jacob Jacobse Young, 1754-1795 ) where some Palatine researchers have merged the two; Jacob J. Young married Maria rather than Eva and has a different set of children. The will of Jacob H. Young ( 1710-1794 ), written 22 MAR 1790 when Adam Young Jr was still alive, mentions as his children only Jacob, Peter, Margaret, Catherine, Elizabeth, and Hendrick, thus ruling out Adam Jr as an eldest son of Hendrick's eldest son Jacob, and leaving Hendrick himself as the only apparent candidate for Adam Jr's father. In the pension application of Jacob A. Young ( Appendix C ), Jacob A. states that in 1776 he left the Canajoharie district ( modern Starksville NY ) and traveled to Palatine to reside with his grandfather, this grandfather most likely being Hendrick Young since Jacob H. had no son Adam and Theobald Young already has a son Adam, this being Adam UE ( Theobald is also believed dead by this time, though there's no proof of it until 1789 ). In any event the presence of Hendrick Young's descendants, or of Hendrick Young himself, anywhere near German Flatts and Stone Arabia at the time Philip Young married and had children there throws a wrench into the works, and again it becomes necessary to find historical reference regarding Philip Young's parentage, or at least a map that shows him living on the back of somebody's property. Initially when I read about Hendrick Young's purchasing land at Palatine Bridge from Col. Philip Schuyler ( 1730 ) I wondered if this might have been where the name Philip came from; previously the scenario was ruled out on supposition that Hendrick returned to Schoharie after he sold his land ( cf. Clifford M. Young ) but now it looks as if Hendrick might never have moved at all.

On a last note, the various accounts and biographies of Frederick Young UE show an even stranger dichotomy of time and place than do those of Adam UE ( i.e. born in the 1720s or 1730s, was a Justice of the Peace or wasn't, lived next to Theobald's family or didn't, married Catherine Schumacher aged 40 or 20 or didn't marry at all, etc ) which leads one to wonder if there might also have been two Frederick Youngs of Canajoharie. The name "Adam Jung Jr" only ever surfaces once in the surviving records, so some small indication that there were also two Frederick Youngs in the area might likewise have been missed. Catherine Schumacher ( the wife in the only Frederick Young marriage on record ) was the widow of Melchior Bell, and the Bell family also turns up in the Philip Young baptismal record; but was the Frederick Young who married Catherine Schumacher the son of Theobald Young or the son of Hendrick Young? More developments if and when they arise.

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APPENDIX A: Notes on Jacob A. Young from Clifford Young's "The Young Families of the Mohawk Valley" ( Fort Plain Standard, Fort Plain NY: 1947 )

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"In this line the first definitely known ancestor is Jacob A. Young, who was born in 1755. There is no listing of his birth or baptism in any available church record, and who his parents were must be a matter of conjecture. There is some evidence that his father's name was Adam; tradition in one branch of the family says so, and there is on the records an Adam Young of the appropriate generation. Three sons of this Adam are listed in the records of the Dutch Reformed Church at Stone Arabia: Johannes, born 1742; and Hendrick and Abraham, twins, born 1762. [ i.e. traditionally the family of Adam Young UE ] No other children are recorded in church records, but there is obviously room for several in the twenty years between. Adam was the son of Theobald and Maria Catherina Jung, and was born May 17, 1717, in Schoharie, having been baptized by Pastor Kochertal on one of his visits there. If this is the true line, it is thus carried back as far as possible, for Theobald was the immigrant, arriving in 1710 with the rest of the great body of the Palatines.

"The Theobald Young family moved from Schoharie to the Mohawk about 1722, and thereafter the names of the father and the three sons, Adam, Frederick and Andreas, appear frequently in documents of the Canajoharie District of Tryon County, a large area which included what was to be later the Town of Stark. A petition signed by all of them is dated May 31, 1751, and each of these "Yonghes" was granted the license to purchase 2,000 acres. On May 21, 1752, Theobald and Adam purchased land of Indians named Abraham, Brant, and Niacus, and the papers were delivered to Frederick Young. The 'Theobald Young Patent' was dated August 25, 1752, and covered the south portion of what is now the Town of Warren, the boundary described as starting at 'a hole in the ground' called by the German settlers the Kyle and by the Indians Theogsowone [ this property = Adam Young UE's ]. There is also a deed recorded at Fonda, of land in Tryon County Ė Adam Young to Isaac Paris, May 16, 1774 Ė which mentions the 'Otsquago' [ this property = Adam Young Jr's ]. It is clear then there was at that time, in that county, an Adam who could have been the father of Jacob A. Young.

"Adam's wife, as listed at the birth of the sons already mentioned, was Catharina Schremling. But the same tradition which gives Adam as the father of Jacob A. (recorded by a great-granddaughter of Jacob A.) gives the name of his wife as Polly Crain, and says that she was the daughter of a sea captain. Where this legend came from no one now knows. In the record of the Palatine group there are no Crains, and if indeed that was her name this Adam must have been an enterprising fellow who found himself a wife outside his own locality and racial group. It is recorded that Jacob A. had a sister named Polly, but there is no further evidence. A persistent but unprovable legend in the family records a strain of aboriginal blood, though which one of the ancestors allied himself with an indigenous American is not surely known. Was the so-called 'Frenchwoman', i.e. a squaw, perhaps this Polly? Did this same Adam, married to Catharina Schremling, contract another alliance also? And would this have been the reason why Jacob A.'s birth was not recorded?

"Jacob A. Young lived on a farm northwest of Van Hornesville on the road leading to the Squake, now known as the John L. Young farm. ( 'Squake', pronounced Squawk, is an abbreviation of Otsquago.) This land, comprising about 180 acres, was settled by Jacob A's father and was undoubtedly in the process of being cleared of the original forest when Jacob A. was born in 1755. The log cabin in which they lived was situated southwest of the present buildings on the edge of the ravine which carried the Otsquago Creek, and which was within a short distance of its source. That cabin, somewhat enlarged, was used by the family until approximately 1820, when the house now standing on the farm was built. A short distance away over the hill is the Squake Cemetery, around which was located the early village of that name. The church stood east of the cemetery, and west of it was the store, the hotel, the repair shops and several houses. To the south and opposite the cemetery, the training field for the militia was established, and the periodic exhibitions of the local military force established the Squake as a center for community gatherings not unlike the county fairs that were held after the Civil War."

"Jacob A. Young died May 26, 1833, and is buried, with his wife Eve, in this little cemetery on the Squake."

( http://www.threerivershms.com/jungowendyoung.htm )

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APPENDIX B: Van Horne Patent Map of 09 OCT 1764

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The names of the people having houses on this tract of land
1: Andries Caller. 2: A. turner. 3: Hendrek Caller.
4: the widow Elwood. 5: John Jordain. 6: John Stevein [ note that John Stevens is apparently already here in 1764 and not in NYC ]
7: Jacob *eader. 8: Nicholas oxner. 9: Hendrek Mayor.
10: rudulf Jozker. 11: hendrek hoeber. 12: hendrik Clock.
13: Elias Garlock. 14: John house. 15: John hatcock.
16: John Labur. 17: Solomon Mayor. 18: John Dephundorf.
19: the widow soller. 20: hendrek Sanders. 21: hendrek
*are*. 22: Loduwick Crane. 23: Adam Young. 24: young
*****. 25: hendrek habrain. 26: the widow john*****
27: Joseph Mabie. 28: peter Davetse Shuyler.
29: felix Mayor. 30: hordeff Caller.

( http://www.fort-plank.com/Patent_Maps.html )

"Ludwick Kraan" was naturalized 11 SEP 1761 along with several others who are recorded on this map ( Felix Mayer, Hannes Dieffendorf, Andreas Keller, Hannes Jordan Jr, Hendrick Mayer, Solomon Mayer ), which would indicate that he was born abroad, either in Germany, France, or Canada. The Clifford M. Young reference is correct in stating that no one with this surname was recorded among the Palatines arriving 1710. Elsewhere Lodowick's surname is spelled "Crane", "Cran" or "Kran", and in the Klock Papers he is called "Leuis Cren". It is interesting to note that two Cranes are mentioned in the papers of Sir William Johnson, the first being "Lodowick Crane" ( as a tenant subpoenaed in a land claims case against Uri Klock ), the second being "Hannes Crane" whom Thomas Butler and Jelles Fonda report having encountered in the Mohawks Country JAN 1757:

"31st. Two Indians of The lower Castle of the Mohawks Came to Jelles Fondas, the One known by the Name of Haniss Crane, The other One Ey'd Lourance. On hearing where Mr. Fonda was Going Said it was not Safe to Go among the Six Nations And That he wou'd Stand a Chance To loose his Scalp among them."

( Papers of Sir William Johnson Vol II, p. 667 )

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APPENDIX C: Jacob A. Young's Pension Application

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R.11960

Declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress passed June 7, 1832.
State of New York
County of Herkimer

On this 11th day of October one thousand eight hundred and thirty two, personally appeared in open court before the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas for the County of Herkimer now sitting Jacob A. Young, a resident of the Town of Stark in the County of Herkimer and State of new York, aged seventy seven years on the sixth day of April last past.

Who being first duly sworn according to law, doth on this oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress passed June 7, 1832.

That he was a private in Captain Henry Ecklerís Company in Colonel Peter Bellingerís Regiment and General Nicholas Herkimerís Brigade of Infantry of the Militia of the State of New York. Conrad Orendorff was first Lieutenant Timothy Frank was second Lieutenant, and Adam Starring was the Ensign.

That the whole regiment was called out and rendezvoused at Fort Herkimer in the Town of German Flatts in the month of January 1776 and marched from there down to Caughnawaga on the Mohawk River in the present County of Montgomery in said state, a distance of about forty miles.

That he recollects of being paraded on the ice of the Mohawk Rivers, That the Regiment was at that place about three or four days when they went to Johnstown and were employed in drawing a piece of artillery up a hill south of that village which commanded the village and returned from there to Caughnawaga and then returned home again, being absent about twelve days that this deponent had been in his company about a year although he did but little actual service.

That in the same year, 1776, deponent removed down to Palatine in the present County of Montgomery to reside with his grandfather where he was enrolled in Capt. Bigbreadís Company in Col. Peter Waggonerís Regiment. In Geníl Nicholas Herkimerís Brigade.

That the Lieut. Was Jacob Eckler but he cannot recollect the name of the ensign.

That the company was divided into three subdivisions, and numbered so that when they were called upon to do duty our subdivision would go at one time and another when its turn came. That the first duty this deponent recollects doing, he was called out as one of a guard under Lieut. Samuel Gray, to protect a grist mill belonging to Sir John Johnson but which now used by the Whigs and the American troops and which was threatened to be burned by the Tories and Indians. When he remained one week, that in the same year this deponent was out several times in his turn on scouts to Johnstown and other places in the neighborhood.

And this deponent further says in the year 1777 he went out again as part of the company aforesaid and was under the command of Christopher Fox, as Captain in the same regiment. That the regiment rendezvoused at Cherry Valley, a distance of about sixteen miles when Gen'l. Herkimer took the command of the brigade. That after remaining there three or four days, they marched down to the foot of Otsego Lake and from there down a foot path through the woods to the Unadilla River.

Then they met the Indians under Joseph Brandt an Indian Chief when a treaty was formed with the Indians as he was informed. Staid (stayed) there three or four days and perhaps longer as this deponent is not certain of the time. That the place of meeting according to deponentís recollection must have been about forty miles from the foot of Otsego Lake. That they came back the same way they went and were absent on the expedition about twelve or fourteen days, that this was in the month of July in the year aforesaid.

That in the month of August in the same year 1777, Capt. Bigbreadís whole company was called out to assist in repelling the Indians and English from Fort Stanwix which they had infested and besieged. Col. Peter Gansevoort and his Regiment. That the company came up the river as far as Fort Dayton a distance of about twenty five miles when they were overtaken by an express stating that the Tories had commenced burning near the Indian Castle that the company was immediately ordered back by Geníl Herkimer who was then at Fort Dayton. They found on their return that this was a false alarm. Supposed to have been made by the Tories for the purpose of weakening Gen'l Herkimerís force. That deponent remained there a short time in searching out and making prisoners of Tories and their families and bringing them into forts along the river. That while deponent was so employed the Battle of Oriskany was fought in August of that year that when the whole army was routed and driven back this deponent (the rest of the company having gone before) was moved to return home. That the whole time he was out was about ten or twelve days. That in the fall of the year 1777 he returned to live with his father again in the present Town of Starks, in the County of Herkimer.

That in the spring of the year 1779 his fatherís family was obliged to quit the farm and take refuge in the forts along the Mohawk River.

That this deponent assisted in the spring of that year to build fort Windecker on the Mohawk River and worked again on the same fort the ensuing year. That for the most part of the time deponent was with his father on a farm in the neighborhood owned by one John Pickert but had been compelled from time to time to take refuge in the fort. When deponent did duty and stood on guard the next year this deponent was again in said fort until the month of August when he had engaged in escorting Gen'l Van Rensselaer and the provisions and boats under his charge to Fort Stanwix. That deponent was at this time and was since he returned to live with his father as aforesaid.

In a company commanded by Lieut. John Windecker that the men marched up both sides of the river to Fort Stanwix. That when they arrived there Geníl Van Rensselaer was saluted with a salute of thirteen guns from the fort and a general cheer given. That while Geníl Van Rensselaer was there the Indians and Tories eluded him and came down the river and burned off the houses and barns. Fort Walrad and the house where the deponentís family resided when they were out of the fort, that all this deponentís household stuff and furniture was destroyed by said fire. That he returned in about eight or ten days and from that time deponent and his family remained in the fort.

And this deponent further says that he remained in said fort from the month of August 1777. In the winter they were not in the fort but lived at father-in-laws until the spring of the hear 1778. That during this whole time this deponent was under the command of Lieut. Windecker who was the commanding officer in said fort when he performed regularly in the summer season in the winter season no duty was performed as they were not under an apprehension from the enemy. The fort was Windeckerís home fortified.

That in the month of August 1780 or 1781 this deponent volunteered under the command of Col. Marinus Willett and assembled at Fort Plain in the present County of Montgomery and marched thence to Fort Clyde. From thence to Bowmanís Creek and there deponent with two others were chosen by Col. Marinus Willet to spy out the enemyís camp and found them posted at Sharon, then called Turlough in the County of Tryon, that met the army after performing the duty on which they had been sent at a certain place which had been agreed on. That Col. Willett did not come upon the enemy in time to surprise them before day light and abandoned the project. That in the morning he sent Lieut. Sammons with a small detachment for the purpose of drawing out the enemy in pursuit while the rest of the men were divided in two lines nearly parallel in the woods. Sufficiently distant to receive the enemy in the middle. That the Lieut. succeeding in part in dragging them into the ambuscade prepared for them by Col. Willett and the enemy were routed. That they were absent on this expedition about three days, when he returned to his post at the fort aforesaid.

That while this deponent was at Fort Windecker and after the burning of Stone Arabia by the enemy and when they were on their retreat this deponent and those in the fort with him, took during one night thirteen prisoners, that among them was a man who had the waiter of Sir John Johnson as he alleged and he had with him fine shirts, silk handkerchiefs, watches, pistols and other things, as evidence of what he said that they also took twenty seven horses and killed one Indian. That deponent recollects that the waiter had one thumb cut off, that deponent got the horse which he rode and the musket which he carried, that deponent used the same musket at the Battle of Turlough and that it is now in the family of this deponent. That this deponent while in said fort was called upon to do duty at Fort Dayton, where they had not enough to protect the fort and do the ordinary duty. That while there the deponent was under the command of Capt. Brown who then resided and as this deponent believes now resides at Sharon in the present County of Schoharie.

Went as one of a guard up the Mohawk River to Fort Stanwix to protect boats that were loaded with provisions for the use of the troops at that place.

That with the exceptions above stated this deponent for above four years in the summer time was constantly in said fort and doing duty as a regular soldier but never received any pay therefore that this deponent had no documentary evidence in support of his claim but expects to prove a greater part of the above services by John Duesler who was with this deponent a part of the time.

And this deponent further says he was born in the present town of Minden in the County of Montgomery in the State of New York on the sixth day of April 1755. That this deponent had a record of his age in a German Testament now in his possession and ready to be produced in court. He is seventy-seven years old.

That this deponent resided when first called into the service in the present Town of Stark in the County of Herkimer, has lived there since the Revolutionary War and still continues to reside there.

That this deponent was subject to do duty as a militia man and was ordered out from time to time to duty as above stated besides as one of a [ ??? ] hiring a substitute to stand the nine months and three drafts made during the war.

That this deponent was acquainted with Major Andrew Fink and Col. Marinus Willett of the regular army and served part of the time in Col. Bellingerís Regiment and part of the time in Col. Waggonerís Regiment but in no other.

That this deponent never received any discharge during the time he so served as aforesaid.

That this deponent can prove his character for truth and veracity and the belief of the service of this deponent as a soldier of the Revolutionary War by Cornelius Delong and others I had of said neighborhood.

Hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present and declares that his name is not on the pension roll of the agency of any state.

Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.

(Signed with his mark) Jacob A. Young

Sworn in open court this 11th day of October 1832. F. E. Spinney, Dep. Clerk

( http://morrisonspensions.org/pensionyoung.htm )

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APPENDIX D: Resolutions of the Tryon County Committee Chamber on 05 FEB 1778

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Resolved that John Libe, Lewis Young and Jacob Adam Young Do proceed to morrow to Scenectada or Else whare and bring back before this Committee James Clow (Whom they had Clandistantly taken away) to Answer the Complaint of this Board at their own expense.

Resolved that the Committee of each District Furnish each one's quota of Sleighs for bringing up their Remaining Salt on Monday next in the following proportion, Viz
German flatts 8
Connijohare 3
Palatine 3
Mohawk 2

On Examination of Lt Peter P. Bellinger. Resolved that he be Committed to Gaol to be Kept in close Confinement till further orders.

Resolved that Mr Peter Sits take into Custody Mr Peter P. Bellinger and to deliver him to the Gaoler of Johnstown to be Kept there in close Confinement.

( http://www.morrisonspensions.org/tryoncmte.pdf )

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APPENDIX E: The Hendrick and Theobald Young Family Trees

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[ Entries in brackets are from secondary sources rather than primary sources or have been inferred ]

1 HENDRICK JUNG b. Germany, naturalized 03 JAN 1716 at Albany NY.
. . . + Anna Margaretha [ Zimmermann ]
. . . . . . 2 [ Jacob Jung b. abt 1710 NY ] d. 12 JAN 1794 Fort Plain NY age 84 [ fourth child in Simmendinger reg; perh. named for Jacob Zimmermann ]
. . . . . . . . . + Dorothea [ Reichert Ė note that from Jacob2 Young's will it sounds as if she might only have been the mother of Hendrick3 ]
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 Jacob Jung [ b. about 1753 NY ] d. 29 DEC 1795 Fort Plain NY age 42.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . + Maria
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 Jacob Young [ b. 19 FEB 1780 NY, d. 07 APR 1863 NY ]
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . + Betsey
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 Frederick Young
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 David Young [ b. about 1783 NY, d. 04 JUN 1851 Freysbush NY ]
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . + Christina
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 [ Nancy Young ]
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 [ Catherine Young ]
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 Peter Jung
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . + Maria Elisabeth Seeber
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 [ William Young ]
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 [ Abram Young ]
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 [ Margaret Young ]
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 Elisabeth Jung b. 07 MAR 1782, chr. 10 MAR 1782 German Flatts NY ( sp: Jacob Jung & Dorothea )
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 [ Polly Young b. 1783 NY, d. 21 OCT 1801 Fort Plain NY ]
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 [ Nancy Young ]
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 [ Maria Young ]
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 Jacob P[eterse] Young chr. 09 MAR 1790 St Johnsville NY ( sp: Jacob Young & Maria )
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 [ Catherine Young ]
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . + [ Betsey Diefendorf, b. 1779, d. 13 MAY 1817 aged 39 years, 9 months and 17 days ]
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 [ David Young b. 02 JUN 1814 NY ]
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . + [ Gertrude, widow of Abraham Hess 01 JAN 1818 NY ]
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 Catherine Jung
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 Elizabeth Jung
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 Margaret Jung
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 Hendrick Jung
. . . . . . 2 Maria Catharina Jung b. 28 OCT 1711, chr. 11 NOV 1711 by Kocherthal ( sp: Jacob Zimmermann et al. )
. . . . . . 2 Johannes Henrich Jung b. 24 JAN 1716, chr. 24 JAN 1716 by Kocherthal ( sp: Anna Margretha Zimmermann et al. )
. . . . . . . . . + [ Catharine Lantman 24 JAN 1744 NY ]
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 [ Pieter Young b. 1746 NY, d. young ]
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 [ Pieter Young b. 1748 NY ]
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 [ Elisabeth Young b. 1751 NY ]
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 [ Johannes Young b. 1753 NY ]
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 [ Catharina Young b. 1755 NY ]
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 [ Stephen Young b. 1757 NY ]
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 [ Jacob Young b. 1760 NY ]
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 [ Abram Young b. 1762 NY ]
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 Frederich Jung b. 15 NOV 1764 at Hoseck NY, chr. Schoharie NY ( sp: Johannes Reichert & his wife )
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 [ Isaac Young b. 1767 NY ]
. . . . . . 2 Anna Margareth Jung b. 24 JAN 1716, chr. 24 JAN 1716 by Kocherthal ( sp: Anna Margretha Zimmermann et al. ) [ m. Henry Eckler ]
. . . . . . 2 [ Adam Young of the Squake b. after 1717, d. before FEB 1798 ]
. . . . . . 2 Peter Jung ( "son of Hendrick Jung" )
. . . . . . . . . + Maritie Anderson reg. 14 JUN 1748 Schoharie NY.
. . . . . . . . . + Margaretha Freymauer 02 AUG 1748 Schoharie NY.
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 Elisabet Jung b. 05 MAY 1749, chr. 07 MAY 1749 Schoharie NY ( sp: Michel Freymauer & wife )
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 Johannes Jung b. 28 MAY 1754, chr. 30 MAY 1754 Schoharie NY ( sp: Johannes Freymauer & wife ), d. OCT 1760.
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 Eva Jung b. 11 OCT 1756 Schoharie NY ( sp: Henrich Schafer & his wife )
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 Catharina Jung b. 19 NOV 1758 Schoharie NY ( sp: Adam Braun & Catharina Ingold )
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 Peter Jung b. 08 AUG 1761 Schoharie NY ( sp: Johannes Ingold & Magdalena Braun )
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . + Elisabeth Dausend 13 SEP 1791 Schoharie NY.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 Margaretha Jung b. 20 JAN 1793, chr. 21 JAN 1793 Schoharie NY ( sp: Peter Jung & wife )
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 Maria Engel Jung b. 14 APR 1794, chr. 03 MAY 1794 Berne NY ( sp: Henrich Puntzer & Maria Engel )
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 Jacob Young b. 10 OCT 1802 Berne NY ( sp: Jacob Dausen & wife Elisabeth )
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 Elisabeth Young b. 26 AUG 1805 Berne NY ( sp: John Leib & wife Elisabeth )
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 Annaje Jung b. 28 OCT 1764 Schoharie NY ( sp: Henrich Borst & his wife )
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 Johannes Jung b. 09 AUG 1767 Schoharie NY ( sp: Peter Nicolas Sommers & wife ) d. OCT 1760.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . + Susanna Fuchs 26 OCT 1790 Schoharie NY.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 Pieter Joung b. 01 JUN 1791, chr. 04 JUN 1791 Berne NY ( sp: Pieter Joung & Margaretha )
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 Johannes Jung b. 04 JAN 1793, chr. 13 JAN 1793 Berne NY ( sp: Pieter Schulkraft & Padje )
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 Elisabeth Joung b. 04 NOV 1795 Berne NY ( sp: Elisabeth Lieb & Johannes Lieb )
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 Jacob Jongh b. 01 NOV 1797, chr. 06 DEC 1797 Schoharie NY ( sp: Jacob Fox & Anna Snyder )


1 THEOBALD JUNG b. Germany, naturalized 03 JAN 1716 at Albany NY.
. . . + Maria Catharina [ Schneider ]
. . . . . . 2 Johann Adam Jung b. 17 MAY 1717, chr. 06 JUN 1717 by Kocherthal ( sp: Johann Just Laux et al. )
. . . . . . . . . + Catharine Elisabeth Schrimling
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 Johannes Jung b. 1742 Stone Arabia NY ( sp: Frederich Jung & Thoredea Hessen )
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . + Catharina [ Hill ]
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 Abraham Young b. about 1766 NY.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 Daniel Jung b. 18 NOV 1770 Stone Arabia NY ( sp: Daniel Jung & Elisabeth Mattesin )
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 John Young b. about 1772 NY.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 Elizabeth Young b. about 1774 NY.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 Joseph Young b. about 1781 NY.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 [ Catherine Young ]
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 [ Ann Young ]
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 [ Elisabeth Jung b. about 1746 NY ]
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 Johan Nicolas Jung chr. 17 JUN 1750 at Canajoharie NY ( sp: none; may have been a son of Adam Jr since no mother's name given )
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 [ Daniel Jung b. about 1755 NY, d. 09 MAY 1835 Upper Canada ]
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 [ Theobald or David Jung b. about 1760 NY, d. about 1779 NY ]
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 Henrich Jung b. 17 AUG 1762, chr. 18 AUG 1762 Stone Arabia NY ( sp: Henrich Frei & wife Elisabeth )
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 Abraham Jung b. 17 AUG 1762, chr. 18 AUG 1762 Stone Arabia NY ( sp: Henrich Frei & wife Elisabeth )
. . . . . . 2 [ Maria Catharina Jung; m. George Schremling ]
. . . . . . 2 [ Anna Margaretha Young, here because Hendrick's daughter Margaretha accounted for; m. Johannes Hess ]
. . . . . . 2 Frederick Young, brother of Adam Young UE d. 1777 Fort Niagara [ intestate, nephew Daniel granted letters of administration ]
. . . . . . 2 [ Andreas Jung; included in Young Patent ]
. . . . . . . . . + Elisabetha
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 Theobald Jung b. 30 DEC 1761, chr. 07 JAN 1762 Stone Arabia NY ( sp: Theobald Jung & Magdalena )
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . + [ Unknown ]
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 [ Magdalena Young b. 1784 NY ]
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . + Marillis [ or Maria Elisabeth, Leib 03 NOV 1788 Sand Hill NY ]
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 [ Joseph Edwin Young b. 1793 NY ]
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 Elisabeth Young b. 03 MAY 1796 Berne NY ( sp: George Schremling & his wife Elisabeth )
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 [ Margaret Young b. 1799 NY ]
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 [ Polly Young ]
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 [ John Young ]
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 [ Susanna Young b. 1765 NY ]
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 [ Jacob Young ]
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . + [ Anna Jordan 23 JAN 1791 Fort Plain NY ]
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 [ Elizabeth Young ]
. . . . . . 2 [ Peter Jung, here because Hendrick's son accounted for, and because Henrich3 chr. same day as Adam2's son with a Frei as sponsor ]
. . . . . . . . . + Maria Magdalena
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 Henrich Jung b. 11 AUG 1762, chr. 18 AUG 1762 Stone Arabia NY ( sp: Henrich Schrembling & Catharine Frei )
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 Maria Lena Jung b. 27 AUG 1767, chr. 24 SEP 1767 Stone Arabia NY ( sp: Pieter Serves & Lena Serves )
. . . . . . 2 [ Henrich Jung, here because Hendrick's son Hendrick accounted for ]
. . . . . . . . . + Magdalena
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 Johann Nicolas Jung b. 03 OCT 1763 at Albany NY ( sp: Johan Nicholas Hafner & wife Elisabeth )
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 Jacob Jung chr. 02 JUN 1765 at Albany NY ( sp: Jacob Martin & Christina Fretz )
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 Elizabetha Young b. 15 JAN 1770 Stone Arabia NY ( sp: Nicholaus Haffner & wife Elisabeth )
. . . . . . 2 [ Dewald a.k.a. Theobald or David Jung; usually taken to be a son of Theobald Sr ]
. . . . . . . . . + Margaretha Hauss 14 JUN 1763 Stone Arabia NY.
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 Fredericus Jung b. 23 JUN 1764, chr. 01 JUL 1764 Stone Arabia NY ( sp: Frederich Blanck & Ottilia )
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 [ John D. Jung b. 1766 NY ]
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 Dewald Jung b. 27 AUG 1770 Stone Arabia NY ( sp: Dewald Hess & Elisabetha Schremling )


1 ?
. . . +
. . . . . . 2 Philipp Jung
. . . . . . . . . + Anna Maria
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 Elisabetha Jung b. 12 DEC 1764, chr. 11 JAN 1765 Stone Arabia NY ( sp: Elisabeth Franckin & Geo. Henrich Bell )
. . . . . . . . . . . . 3 Philippus Jung b. 02 SEP 1765, chr. 10 SEP 1765 Stone Arabia NY ( sp: Johann Jost Hergheimer Esq. & Catharina )


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