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Re: Oneida Doxtators, or the Cornelius Dockstader Line
Posted by: Barbara Ranshaw (ID *****4227) Date: November 15, 2009 at 04:51:24
In Reply to: Re: Oneida Doxtators, or the Cornelius Dockstader Line by Charles Julian of 187

When Aunt Polly was asked whether Honyost was Blatcop's father, perhaps she was wondering, along with a lot of others apparently, about whether Lieut Honyost was Blatcop's father. Not that I believe that: Lieut Honyost is said to have 2 children, one a minor; unlikely to have a child in his thirties (Blatcop) with the next one a minor and none in between.

Much has been written about German Honyost and at least half of it is untrue.. as it contradicts the other half.

Examples:
That Honyost was poor; records show he was the grandson of the most powerful man in the county.. Honyost Herkimer, for whom he was named; his Schuyler grandfather had a lot of land and Honyost inherited some.
That Honyost went to Canada in 1776 with Brant and Butler; records show Honyost joined the Tryon Co. militia, along with his father and brothers.
Honyost was rescued by his family after he joined the Brits; records show Honyost's uncle Honyost Herkimer was a Brit sympathizer... he was disowned by the family and had to go to Canada, permanently. Why would Honyost be treated differently than his uncle.
That his brother Nicholas saved him from execution by substituting for him while he did his infamous con; records show Nicholas was a soldier in the Tryon Militia... the military would hardly consider him a substitute.
That Honyost escaped to Canada after the con; records show he was in Tryon Co jail in 1779.
That Honyost was a known Tory; records show he started a colony with a bunch from the Tryon militia who were held for two years by the British, including some of his brothers.

Honyost is called a notorious spy; I think he was spying for the Americans, not the Brits. I think he is called stupid and crazy to mock the Brits for being fooled by him.

If Honyost was an American spy, he could hardly fight alongside his brothers. But he could fight with the Oneida under the disguise of Blatcop.

Honyost may have disguised himself as an Oneida during the war. After the war, Honyost started a settlement along with a bunch of white folks and probably lived like the rich white man he was. Where did Moses get the money to buy the land in Canada? He owned a lot more land than the other Oneida and he built himself a brick house in Canada. Did he get the money from Honyost?












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