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Re: Lieutenant John Dachsteder and the Dockstaders of Stone Arabia NY (c. Mid-1700s)
Posted by: raymond lozon (ID *****2687) Date: June 12, 2005 at 13:30:24
In Reply to: Lieutenant John Dachsteder and the Dockstaders of Stone Arabia NY (c. Mid-1700s) by Charles Julian of 186

I found your messages very interesting! I recently had an article printed in the OGS newletter Haldimand Past Times (Volume 15, Issue 3, September 2004)entitled "Lt. John Dockstader of the Grand River", and I also questioned the accepted birth year of 1760. For a 17 year old boy John had done a lot of living and had accumulated a lot of wealth. I also question the accepted paternity of John as being a Henry Dachsteder. The Henry that married Maria Magdalena Weber, I believe also is John's brother. The son, John, mentioned in his will lived in South Cayuga Twp., Haldimand Co., and is often referred to as Lt. John's nephew. He returned to New York during the 1812 War and later transferred his land to his daughter and her husband Wilhelmus Fredenburg. I believe John and Henry's father is named John and is a son of George Dachsteder the original pioneer from Germany who settled in the Mohawk Valley in New York. In Doris Dockstader Rooney's book "The Dockstader Family" on page 2854 in an Addenda section she prints a 1982 letter by Anne Cosby of Niagara Falls in which she states that on Upper Canada Land Petition Reel 1743 found at the National Archives in Ottawa is a Land Petition for Henry Dockstader of Caistor Twp. which says that Henry is a son of John Dockstader. I thought I had a copy but I can't find it but I have seen it and written on it as if by someone considering the petition are the words "the son of Either of the John Docksteders", and the year 1799. In Fonda New York is a copy of a book written by Otis Dockstader and his son John Dockstader.In it they quote from the New York State Historian Vol. ll page 890 that Johannes Dockstader,Jr., Ensign is recommended for a commision in the 3rd Reg't.,Western part of the Co. of Albany, Col. Guy Johnson, Capt. Arent Andrese Bradt, May 14, 1768. If John were born in 1750 and not 1760 that makes a lot of sense and explains why he was such an exemplary and experienced soldier by the time of the Revolution and also why he was considered inimical to freedom and dangerous if he remained in the country in 1777. And if he was Johnannes Jr. then his father has to be Johnannes Sr.and known to Guy Johnson and Arent Bradt. John and Otis Dockstader put a Johannes as the 7th child of George Dockstader and Anna Elizabeth, "prob. Johannes, (John Sr. father of John Jr.). Doris D. Rooney at one time thought there was a Johannes. In a Dockstader File at the Montgomery County Archives in Fonda,NY, there is a typewritten sheet with Georg Dachstatter and Anna Elizabeth children listed. At the top of the sheet is the name Doris Dockstader Rooney with her address in Kansas. Johannes George born 1715 is the 4th child. But in her book she decides against listing him. But a writer by the name of William V.H.Barker lists him in his book "Early Families of Herkimer County New York", Published in 1986. He puts him in the 10th spot in the children of George and Anna Elisabeth Dockstader, "pr. JOHN b say 1726; living 1754 (sold land to Jac. N. Weber) a John Dockstader was deeded Burnetsfield lot #21 by George Dockstader in 1753 and sold one acre thereupon to Jacob N. Weaver in 1754." There is also a John Dackstetter in a list of people who took an oath of allegiance to King George and the Protestant Religion in 1773. It is found in the Sir william Johnson Papers Vol. Vlll, Page 653. The signature differs from Lt. John's. I found a brief letter written by Lt. John to Thomas Welch, I wrote a brief story about it and it should be published in the Haldimand Past Times this month. Anyway the signatures are different and even the name spelling differs. I have more but I will post this now to see if it really works!

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