As far as I know Joe was illegitimate from a Fanny Donkersley. Fanny's parents were Abraham Donkersley and Mary Bray.
They had 6 children: James b 1838/9, Sarah b1842/3, Nancy b1845/46, William 1848/9, Fanny b 8/6/1851, Isaac b1857/58.
Mary Ellen Bramhall was born in Sutton, Macclesfield and her parents were James Bramhall and Sarah Thompson.
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