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Appears to be definitely a different family. Fred and Pauline's children were Fred Jr., born Nov. 5, 1896, Simon P. (better known as the musician Charles F. Dornberger), born June 5, 1899, and Freida, born Aug. 9, 1900. Fred Jr.'s wife was Alice M. Troxler, born abt. 1903 in California. Interesting similarities of names, but not the same family. Names. dates, and parents of Fred & Pauline's children are from NYC birth records.