Re: Frederick W. ELLEN of New York
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Re: Frederick W. ELLEN of New York
6/20/01
Yes I am aware of the Frederick W. ELLEN of Middletown.I am trying to find out if his father is Thomas ELLEN and if they are both from England.The 1880 Census for Walkill, NY shows Frederick W. ELLEN as age 33 along with his family.
The 1860 Census for Warwick, NY shows an interesting household:
Charles ELLEN (age 13 born England)
Thomas ELLEN (age 40 born NY)
Elizabeth ELLEN (age 45 born NY
John ELLEN (age 19 born NY)
Frederick ELLEN (age 12 born NY)
George ELLEN (age 10 born NY)
Edmund (age 7 born NY)
I have wondered if the Census taker made a mistake here because there is a Charles age 13 as head of household followed immediately by the next house hold headed by Thomas.It also seem odd that two people with the surname ELLEN would live next to each other but one be from England and the other from NY.I have long wondered if all are from England. Normally I think my assumption would be correct except for the name ELLEN appearing in Hudson River church records occassionally in the 1750-1800 time period (itself maybe a mistaken recordign of ALLEN).
Also the 1870 Census for New York City shows the following family that looks very much like the 1860 family:
Thomas Ellen (age 54 Carpenter born England)
Elizabeth(age 56 born England)
Edwin (age 17 Carpenter born England)
Not an exact match but so similiar Edmund/Edwin same person?There ages are the same the other ages are not the same, but then as you go through all the census records for people surnamed ELLEN you just don't find very many let alone exact matches to build the family relationships.
Just as another piece of informaton I believe a Frederick W. ELLEN appears in the 1880 South Dakota Census!Don't know if he was in the military a long time and maybe got double counted?
Any way if anyone knows where Frederick W. ELLEN might be buried or any of this brothers or sisters where they might be buried it might provide me the clues I need!
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Re: Frederick W. ELLEN of New York
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Re: Frederick W. ELLEN of New York