Re: Bernhard Esch (Engelsheim, Alsace to OH)
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Re: Bernhard Esch (Engelsheim, Alsace to OH)
7/29/00
Scott,
I saw this old posting, and immediately understood that "Engelsheim" is actually Ingolsheim (near Hunspach and Seebach in the very north of Alsace).I am also an Esch descendant, but my direct ancestors came from a town a few miles east, in the town of Croetwiller.The families are probably related.I knew the Esch family was also in the area Ingolsheim and Hunspach, but have not connected them to the Croetwiller family (the Croetwiller records are not available as far as I can see).I believe I traced back some of the Esch births in the area you would be interested in the Hunspach church records.They are definitely available.
I then looked up the birth record of Bernhard Esch in the civil records for Ingolsheim (now available online through the Bas Rhin archive http://archives.bas-rhin.fr/)http://archives.bas-rhin.fr/).His actual birth date is shown as July 12, 1823.Since his last name is Esch, there was no surprise in finding his father's name, Georg Esch.(I am an Esch descendent through my paternal grandfather).But the big surprise was Bernhard's mother is Eva Herr.I am also a Herr descendant through my paternal grandmother.Eva Herr is definitely related to that family, and you can find the church records through 1788 in nearby Rott Alsace and in Hunspach Alsace for the Herr records.I do not have Eva Herr in my database , but she is about a generation later when my fourth great grandmother, Lousia Herr *18.05.1781 Ingolsheim, left the area.Louisa's parents are likely this Eva Herr's grandparents (Johannes Herr *1731 Ingolsheim & Maria Margaretha Meisterhanss born in Cleebourg). Louisa had 11 brothers and sisters.The brothers births are recorded in Rott, and her sisters records, including her's, is recorded in Hunspach.Johannes Herr also had an uncle, Joseph Herr, who had children in Ingolsheim.
Bob Schauer