I have John Fishwick born 1805 married to Alice Liptrot born 1806 both from Rainford/Billinge areas of St Helens. They had the 4 sons you mention, James 1828, Wm 1831, John Hnr, 183 and Richard 1838.
John born 1805 well his father was my 3rd gt grandfather he was John too born 1779 married to Ann Wilson born 1776.
I was born in St Helens, now live in Queensland in Oz. I would love to hear from you.
I have a massiv family tree of the Fishwicks.
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