I'm sorry we didn't match up but we may be distant cousins in the end...Actually, I don't have a confirmation that my John Flahive's spouse was Catherine Lynch. I do have marriage certificates for my ggrandmother Bridget and siblings Margaret and Thomas, and the three were in Glentane and their father was John. There were two Johns, John and John Junior, plus a Patrick in Glentanes in 1853 in the Griffith's Primary valuation. John occupied a lot of land and John Junior shared 48 acres with Patrick.
One has to keep in mind that The GPV was completed for County Kerry in 1853 and so if your Ellen was born after 1853 her father John may not be showing in the Primary Valuation as he may not have been married or a land occupier at that time. Her father may have been a son of any of the Flahive occupiers in the 8 Parishs recorded in the Primary. In addition, there are Flahiffe, Flahiff, Flahave and Flahav and Flahire(Limerick).
When you speak of the time frame 1848 - 1864 used by the assistant in Dublin, I believe those were the years the Griffiths Primary Valuation was being done country wide, after which this final method was used for many years, into the early 1900's, maybe. I do know that they finished in Kerry in 1853.
A great free, new website for Griffith's Primary Valuation where you can search and make copies of surnames as well as a list of all occupiers in a certain townland and look at maps, is askaboutireland.ie . This will clearly show you what you are up against as far as numbers go in Ireland as the Flahive given names of children are repeated over and over: James, John, Patrick, Maurice, Thomas; Michael, William and Robert much less than the others.
Having said all this, I hope you will email me off this forum for more Flahive details as I live in NY and have many bits and pieces of Flahives in NYS and NYC which helped me eliminate and then find my own relatives. I also have a number of questions about the information you have put forth on Ellen's short life. The fact that she went to Albany is very interesting.
Meanwhile, I would be delighted to have the witnesses to the baptisms of my Flahives , in exchange. I
Looking forward to your response,
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