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Posted by: Jay Stein (ID *****4633) Date: September 14, 2004 at 13:24:59
In Reply to: Re: FLAACKE ORIGINAL SPELLING OF FLAKE? by Thor H. Asgardson of 536

Hi Thor,

While I believe there is often truth behind many family traditions, what comes down often gets altered, sometimes ever so slightly, but other times in major way and history should be consulted when evaluating family traditions.

You've written, "...The original land grant in Anson County, North Carolina, came from King Charles prior to his beheading in 1642." Well, this tradition is somewhat suspect for several reasons. First, the earliest dodcumented "white" settlers in the area of present day Anson County only arrived probably around 1740, and at the earliest by most historical account with which I'm familar, perhaps in 1730, but the 1740 date is consider by most to more probable. {It wasn't until 1737 that the earliest requests for grants can be documented in the Pee Dee River region and that's the "requests" not the actual granting of grants, patents, or whatever.) Whatever the date, I'm confident that there is no known extant date for anyone for a land grant in that region of North Carolina anywhere close to the date of 1642.

Also, of Samuel Flake's 10 children, I believe that on one,or maybe it was two, of his children became Mormons. Perhaps someone else can jump in here and be more precise. I know there are at least a few descendants who did serve in the Confederate Army.

I think it may be said that William Jordan Flake did get some of his high principals from his father Samuel, not necessarily those pertaining to slavery though. Samuel Flake makes a present day female descendant elligible for both the "Daughters of the American Revolution" and those societies that honor the "Loyalist" of the American Revolution, many of the latter of whom moved to Canada after the War's ending. It's not because Samuel Flake didn't favor and support the cause of the Revolution, but apparently because of his very high principals. Samuel was a member of the "Regulator" movement and apparently was at the "Battle of Alamance" in 1771 at which a number of the "Regulator Movement" from Orange, Anson, Granville and Anson Counties were subdued by force by Gov. Tryon's force of 2000 "Regulars." Six of the leaders of the group were hung, and the rest, if they took an "oath of alligiance" were pardoned. There are some historians which consider the "Battle of Alamance" to be the first shots fired in the American Revolution, and not the "shot heard round the world" up in New England. Whatever, one of the leaders, James Pugh is said to have stated before the noose was placed around his neck, "The blood we have shed will be good seed sown in good ground,which will reap a hundredfold." Back to our story, a few years later, after the formal Declaration of Independence was declared by the rebelling 13 Colonies including North Carolina, North Carolina, like most of the Colonies, required that all citizens take an "oath of allegiance" to the newly declared independent Colony of North Carolina. Samuel Flake though as reported in the Offical Records of the Colony and State of North Carolina, was arrested and jailed for refusing to take the oath and as such enables any present day descendent who so wishes to be eligible to join one of "Loyalist" societies (I understand that one descended did so.) However, just as many who did take the "oath of allegiance" Samuel's refusal to take the oath did not show his true belief. (There are clear examples of individuals who took the oath, but actually supported the "King." Taking the oath kept one out of jail and helped protect one's property. The property of many loyalist was confiscated after the Revolution, hence partly why many fled to Canada.) Samuel stated that he could NOT take the oath, because he had already, as grounds for his pardon, swore before God a solemn oath not to bare arms against the Kings and to take a second oath contrary to that would be breaking his oath before God which he, Samuel, said he could not do in good conscience, no matter his real feelings. As the story goes, many of Samuel's neighbors "rushed" forward to his support, and after their testifying, the Court ordered Samuel was released from jail and from that time forward was held in high esteem by his neighbors and friends for his willingness to suffer jail rather than break a solemn oath. Samuel continued to be active in the community though and because of other types of support, descendents of Samuel are also, ironically, ellegible for membership in the D.A.R.

By the way, Samuel Flake's homeplace still stood until a fire destroyed it in 1980's

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