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Ellen Fogarty (1859/65 - 18/1/1949), Kerry, Ireland
Posted by: Kilbillaghan (ID *****4252) Date: May 20, 2002 at 14:18:11
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She was from Cappaganeen and her people were farmers. She was an industrious housekeeper, and was proud of her tidy home. People who remember her, describe her as a strong willed individual, always cool, calm and collected. How many children did she have? She smoked the clay pipe. Ellen Fogarty was buried in the family grave in Kilbonane, Co. Kerry.

A lantern used to be hung in the house during the time of Parnell but nobody can remember the reason. Pat remembers the son of the last Irish MP well, a Tom O’Donnell. In the land war the IRB were very active around Cahirciveen but not near them. The local economy had a cloth mill owned by the Eadys and a corn mill owned by the Reidys. Reidys corn mill was taken over by Harringtons who owned Dunloe castle. During his life he was the land steward for the MacGillycuddys of the Reeks, a milesman for the railway between Kilorgan and Cahirciveen.

Denis Fogarty (c.1815/25 - c.1882/99)
He was born in Cappaganneen. He had two boys Dan and Denis with a couple of girls who went to the US and is buried in Churchtown. At Cappaganneen in 1852 we see a John & Denis Fogarty. John had 30 acres 8 perch and Denis had a house (no land).

Baptism Date       Child       Father       Mother       Sponsor       Sponsor
1859       Ellen       Denis       Ellen       ?       ?
1855-65       Daniel       Denis       Ellen       ?       ?
1855-65       Denis       Denis       Ellen       ?       ?

Unfortunately most of the Kerry Diocese RC parish registers on film need permission from the Bishop. Thankfully I got access to the Tuogh register without this permission but Kilorglin RC register does not seem to be on film. For this reason I cannot do a search for Teahan. But the 1852 Griffiths Valuation shows that there was a Patrick, John, James, Denis and Cornelius Teahan who were mostly based at Cromane, Ballymacprior, Ballykissane, Reen and Cleevduff Islands. There was also a Mary and Julia Teahan found in these areas, which are all in the Parish of Kilorglin. Where did he live? The Tithe Applotments show many Teahan in Kilorglin Parish in the 1830s but because there is no reference to Stuck Island I do not know which ones would be related to our Teahan. I presume Stuck Island is one of the Cleevduff Islands or is it on the mainland? The problem is that the parish register of Tuogh only starts in 1844/46 so I cannot get back much before that with any certainty.

John Fogarty (c.1786/1806 - c.1827/52)
The Tithe Applotments of 1827 shows that there was a John Fogarty at Lower Cappaganeen with about 16 acres. How did he die and where is he buried? Where did he go to school?

Baptism Date       Child       Father       Mother       Sponsor       Sponsor
1825 – 1835       Denis       John       ?       ?       ?

John Fogarty’s wife (c.1786/1806 - c.1850/70)

I had a look at the McGillycuddy MSS in the NLI but they were all only 17th and 18th century original documents and the only ones named are O Sullivans, O'Lynes, McCarthy’s, McGillycuddy and a few others (but mostly these). No Galvin or Gallivan named in any of the MSS. Some Connors (Thomas and Charles 1777) and Breens (Ellen 1777 and David 1707) named but though in Parish of Knockane I have no way of linking them to mid/late 19th Breens/Connors. There must be more MSS of this sort in the possession of The McGillycuddy but there does not seem to be anything after 1800 in the NLI or NAI. I was hoping to find Estate Papers showing tenants.

I did check various school "registers" in the NAI which deal with the schools Paddy mentioned but unfortunately none are school pupils rolls but only regsiters dealing with the running of the school. There are some pupil rolls amongst the National School records in the NAI but having ordered up two registers to do with the different schools there was no list of pupils. These records drive the workers at the NAI mad because people order up these files always expecting pupil rolls but as I say those things are few and far between. They are probably still in the schools.

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