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Faust / Foust Surname Pa.
Posted by: ann gallagher (ID *****8210) Date: August 17, 2006 at 09:12:28
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Looking for my John Faust / Foust .....The following was posted to me in the Straub message board. Any and all help highly appreciate. Thanks, Ann in Texas ladysilverdollar1@hotmail.com

Email To Ann - Hi Ann, There was a John Faust/Foust born 1830/31 in Philadelphia. He was the son of my 4xgreat grandfather George Nicholas Faust b. 1802. Also, something interesting, John had a brother named William Henry Faust b. March 16, 1823. William Henry was my 3xgreat grandfather.I lost John Faust, could not find him in Philadelphia,during his adult years.So. I have little info to provide you for John now or if this is indeed your John Faust. I'll keep checking. Goodluck. David Faust.

*** Our Line ***
2006 Email To Ann - Well, wouldn't you know. I just got these extracted when I got your reply... You must be a night owl, too, or an early bird! In the census records below, all birthplaces are Pennsylvania, unless otherwise mentioned.

In the 1930 census, there is an Anna E. FAUST (79) living in Pittsburgh, PA, with her husband Henry FAUST (79).

In 1920, Anna E. FAUST (69) is living in Pittsburg with husband William H. FAUST (69).

In 1910, Annie E. FAUST (59) is living in Pittsburg, PA, with husband William H. FAUST (59) and three children: Albert W., George W., and Violet S.

In 1900, Annie E. FAUST ( 49, b. Mar 1851) is living in Allegheny City (now part of Pittsburg), PA, with husband William FAUST ( 49, b. Dec 1850) and five children: Emma, Ida, Ella, Walter, and Violet.

The 1890 cenus was destroyed.

In 1880, Anna (29), is living in Allegheny City, PA, with her husband, Henry FAUST (29), and four children: Emma, William, Anna, and Stella.

In the 1900-1930 censuses, Anna gives the birthplace of her parents as Germany, but in the 1880 census, she gives their birthplace as Hesse, which is extremely helpful in narrowing down her parents because the majority of STRAUBs in PA are from Baden, Wuerttemberg, Alsace-Lorraine, or Switzerland.

In 1870, Anna STRAUB (20) is living with the family of Joseph FISCHER ( 55, b. France, brewer).

And here is where things fall apart because I cannot find her with any certainty in 1860 or 1850. I found the FISCHER family in 1860, again in Allegheny City, but Anna is not with them.

In 1850, there is an Elizabeth STRAUB (4) living in Pittsburg, PA, with her parents, Frederick STRAUB (33, Germany, cooper) & Mary (30, Germany), plus two siblings: a twin, Alfred (4), and a sister, Mary (7). No one else in Allegheny County comes close, at least not as indexed.

As your message indicates this is the right family I'm tracking, I'll give another try with the 1850 and 1860 censuses...

Diana

There's nothing to suggest Anna was married before she married William Henry FAUST, nor would it help us if she had been. She is Anna STRAUB (age 20) in the 1870 census (living with the FISCHER family), then Mrs. Anna FAUST (age 29) in the 1880 census (living with her husband, William Henry FAUST). The problem is that I can't find her in the 1860 census, where she should be age 9 or 10 (or possibly age 14, if she was fibbing about her age in later life). That doesn't mean she isn't there, it just means she isn't in the index at Ancestry.com.

There are many reasons why someone cannot be found in a census index, and what I would normally do is give up using the index and do a page-by-page search of the township or county where I suspect the person should be. The problem with Anna is that she lived in Allegheny City, which became part of Pittsburgh. There is no way I'm going to do a page-by-page search of a big city, especially not when there's an easy alternative.

As I said before, the most obvious, direct, and simply thing to do here is to get her death certificate. There's always a possiblity that the informant for the death certificate did not know the identity of Anna parents, but *most* death certificates include the names and birthplaces of the decedant's parents, so they are always worth getting. When available (which mostly means in the 20th century), death certificates should be routinely obtained, in any case, as documentation for your genealogy. I hope you will get Anna's, and I hope you will post here what you find out from it.

You might also try for her marriage license. Again, it's documentation you should have, and there's a rare chance that it might name her parents.

If the death certificate doesn't pan out, another avenue is to check is county court records, sometimes called "Orphan's Court Records," because Anna was still a minor when she was living with the FISCHER's. Then, as now, a minor had to have a legal guardian, so if she was living with the FISCHERs because she was orphaned, they may have been her legal guardians. If Anna's parents were still alive, but she simply wasn't living with them, then there'll be no such court records.

You can review what I have at my web site:
http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/FGS/F/FaustWilliamHenry-AnnaElizabethStraub.shtml - Note : David Check this out Please. You have helped me in the past. You seem to have alot more on the Faust / Foust Line.....


***Our Line***
William Henry FAUST and Anna Elizabeth STRAUB Husband: Wilhelm Heinrich / William Henry FAUST
Birth: 5 Dec 1850, PA
Death: 26 Dec 1930, Wheeling, Ohio Co., WV
Occupation: laborer, utility worker
Father: John FAUST
Mother: Catherine __?__ Marriage: 1870 Wife: Anna Elizabeth "Annie" STRAUB
Birth: Mar 1851, PA
Death: Feb 1936
Occuption: homemaker

May have had these siblings: George STRAUB, Belle STRAUB Children born in Allegheny City [now Pittsburgh], Allegheny Co., PA: *** Our Line***
1. Ida / Ada / Adelle FAUST, b. Jan 1872; m. Mr. KIRSCHNER
2. Emma FAUST, b. May 1873; m. August PRACHT
3. Albert William FAUST, b. 1873/4
4. Ann FAUST, b. 1877/8
5. Stella FAUST, b. May 1880
6. Ella FAUST, b. Dec 1882
7. George Walter FAUST, b. 28 Sep 1884; d. Nov 1970; last residence Pittsburgh, Allegheny Co., PA
8. Violet Florence FAUST, b. 24 Sep 1892; d. May 1980; last residence Pittsburgh, Allegheny Co., PA; m. George SUCK (1885-1976)
There is not a perfect match among the children from census to census, which may simply be enumerator error, but additional documentation should be sought to confirm this list, especially for Ida, who does not appear, at all, in our subject's household in the 1880 census.
Sources:
1. Marriage Record:
2. 1860 Census Every-Name-Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com): can't find Anna, and I really looked, including a page-by-page search ten pages in either direction from John FAUST and Joseph FISHER, in Allegheny City (Ward 4). One problem is that this enumerator took only initials, not given names, so if the surname is mis-spelled or mis-indexed, it's extremely hard to find someone in a big city, like Allegheny.
3. 1870 Census Every-Name-Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com): William is living in Allegheny City with his parents (q.v.), who are listed just two pages from Annie STRAUB, who is living with Joseph & Margaret FISHER (q.v.).
4. 1880 Census Every-Name-Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com, Image #53 of 80): 69 Villa Street, Allegheny City, Allegheny Co., PA, Roll T9_1087 (Book 1), p. 655A, PN 53, SD 9, ED 24, enumerated 14 Jun 1880, official enumeration date 1 Jun 1880 (extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):
Where's Ida? She's not living with anyone else, at least, she doesn't come up in the index at Ancestry.com. Plus two boarders whom I did not extract.
5. 1890 Census: the 1890 Census Population Schedules were destroyed.
6. 1900 Census Every-Name-Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com, Image #29 of 30): 140 Spring Garden Avenue, Allegheny City (Ward 7), Allegheny Co., PA, Roll T623_1356 (Book 1), p. 255A, SN 15, SD 18, ED 70, enumerated 7 Jun 1900, official enumeration date 1 Jun 1900 (extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):
Plus four boarders, whom I (obviously) did not extract.
7. 1910 Census Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com, Image #9 of 29): 532 Arlington Avenue, Pittsburgh City (Ward 25), Allegheny Co., PA, Roll T624_1307 (Part 3), p. 196A, SN 5A, SD 23, ED 616, enumerated 20 Apr 1910, official enumeration date 15 Apr 1910 (extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):
8. 1920 Census Every-Name-Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com, Image #20 of 38): 904 Phineas St., Pittsburgh (Ward 23), Allegheny Co., PA, Roll T625_1526 (Book 1), p. 118B, SN 10B, SD 24, ED 695, enumerated 12 Jan 1920, official enumeration date 1 Jan 1920 (extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):
9. 1930 Census Every-Name-Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com, Image #2 of 33): 906 Phineas St., City of Pittsburgh (Ward 23, Block 61), Allegheny Co., PA, Roll 1986 (Book 1), p. 174B, SN 1B, ED 12, SD 2-418, enumerated 2 Apr 1930, official enumeration date 1 Apr 1930 (extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):
10. SSDI: Social Security Death Index (online at RootsWeb.com; missing columns contained no data):
11. Messages posted in the Straub Family Genealogy Forum (online at GenForum.com).
12. Messages posted to Surname Boards: BUTLER, FAUST, STROUP (online at Ancestry.com/RootsWeb.com). Message on the BUTLER board says Anna may have had siblings George and Belle.
Maybe Our John Faust / Foust b. 1809/10 in Pa. laborer married Catharine (?) b. 1815/16 Pa. homemaker Children : 1. Armelia/Amelia b. 1836/37 2. Philip Faust b. 1841/42 3. Allen Faust b 1842/43 4. Abram/Abraham Faust b. 1844/1845 5. Catharine W. Faust b. 1847/49 Allegheny Co., Pa. 6. William Henry Faust b. 5 Dec 1850 - OUR LINE 7. Samuel Faust b. 1854/55.

Any and all help highly appreciated with my John Faust/Foust in Philadelphia. His son William Henry Faust was in the allegheny co. area. They are my ancestors. I have Williams death record.

Thanks, Ann ladysilverdollar1@hotmail.com


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