Didn’t mean to take 11 years to answer your email (LOL) but life got in the way and moves, computer crashes losing all my data; recovered data in 2011, etc. I guess you get the picture. Hope my input is helpful to you and your husband and hope it is not too late. Perhaps you have already gathered this information but still thought I’d share it.
I believe I’ve found your Frederick “Fred” Jones from when he disappeared from Maine. I actually traced a different Fredrick Jones because of your mentioning his father as Thomas H. As it turned out, that Fred married a different woman. Plus, I could never find him in the household with Margaret. This Fred that I traced first was living in South Portland, Cumberland, ME.
However, I did find the Fred who I believe is the one you are looking for. He shows up in a census with Margaret. His family was from Biddeford, York, ME.
These are the censuses as I traced the Fred Jones I believe to be your husband’s family.
1880 Living in parents home in Biddeford, York, Maine
Father-Head, Edward Jones, Age 44, Born abt 1836, Married, b/p Ireland, F: Ireland, M: Ireland, Occ: Works in cotton mill
Mother-Wife, Ann Jones, Age 40, Born abt 1840, Married, b/p Canada, F: Ireland, M: Ireland
Dau – Esther, Age 16, Born abt 1864, Single, b/p Maine, Occ: Work in cotton mill
Son – Albert H., Age 14, Born abt 1866, Single, b/p Maine, Occ: Work in cotton mill
Son- Frederick, Age 12, Born abt 1868, Single, b/p Maine, Occ: Work in cotton mill
Dau- Lucy, Age 10, Born abt 1870, Single, b/p Maine
Son – Edward, Age 8, Born abt 1872, Single, b/p Maine
Dau – Annie, Age 6, Born abt 1874, Single, b/p Maine
Dau – Estella, Age 1, Born abt 1879, Single, b/p Maine
1900 With wife, Margaret in Biddeford, York, ME
Head- Frederick Jones, Age 32, Born: Apr 1868, Married 11 Years, b/p Maine, F/M; Ireland, Ire., Occ: Day Laborer
Wife – Margaret Jones, Age 32, Born: Apr 1868, Married 11 Years, Children born (#): 2; Living 2,
b/p Maine, F/M; Ireland, Ire.
Son – Leo E., Age 8, Born: Apr 1892, Single, b/p Maine
(My note concerning Leo. Military paperwork shows his DOB as 16 Ap 1892. The “E” (MI) stands for Edward, so Leo Edward Jones)
Son – Frederick, Age 5, Born: Feb 1895, Single, b/p Maine
Also in the household:
Sis-in-law (to Head of HH), Nellie O’Neil, Age 27, B: Mar 1873, Single, b/p Maine, Parents: Ireland
Bro-in-law (to Head), John O’Neil, Age 30, B Jul 1869, Single, b/p Maine, Parents: Ireland
1910 – This data is a little odd and confusing somewhat, but the family definitely appears to be Fred & Margaret’s children. Again, the family is in Biddeford, ME (Note added this note after I typed the information below this paragraph: As I’ve been typing this information, a thought came to me that perhaps Alfred & Marguinta Jones may be relatives who took over the care of the children when Frederick disappeared. In this same HH, there is a Nellie Ancel who is single and she is listed as the daughter of Head although she is listed as 37 and the Head as 41, so he can’t be the father. She is probably the same “Nellie O’Neil” in the 1900 census with Frederick. There she was listed as sis-in-law to him. I don’t know why she has the last name Ancel; perhaps she married at some point and no longer married or guess it could be a middle name ?? She is listed as single on this census. Perhaps this is a puzzle for another day. Back to finding Frederick Jones.)
Continue 1910 census:
Head: Alfred Jones (??), Age 41, Born abt 1869, Married (1st), 22 years, b/p Maine, F/M: Canada-English
(Note: Frederick’s parents were from Ireland on other censuses which makes me think this is definitely not Fred but perhaps a relative), Occ: Mechanic, Machinist (Another thing is that our Frederick was a Day Laborer and not a skilled machinist.)
(I checked further on Alfred. He was born on 18 Aug 1870 in Prov. Quebec Canada and naturalized 19 Oct 1898. I wasn’t able to figure out his connection to Frederick, but it definitely appears this family took in his children to care for them.)
Wife: Marguinta (Similar to Margaret, but believe that she is a different person as she apparently was married to Alfred for 22 years. I did see where their marriage was in Nova Scotia but am unable to read it because my Ancestry.com subscription is only for the US and not for World), Age 41, Born abt 1869, Married (1st), 22 years, b/p Maine, F/M: Ireland
Definitely seem to be the children of Frederick and Margaret:
Son: Frederick P., Age 15, Born abt 1895, Single, b/p Maine
Son: Leo E, Age 18, Born abt 1892, Single, b/p Maine
1920 Census – This is where I believe I have found your Frederick “Fred” Jones. It appears he was living in an “Alms – Poorhouse” in Ulster, NY. Here is what I found listed. Note: They call him “inmate” at the end of the line, but that is not the same meaning as today. It just means he lived in the housing provided for those in need.
Home in 1920, New Paltz Village, Ulster County Alms Home, Ulster, NY
His name is on Line 60.
Fred Jones, Age 52, Born abt 1868, b/p Maine, F/M: Maine, Status: Married
I have included information where you can go to get detailed info on him. The “inmates” (men & women) had to fill out a very detailed form. Those forms are on microfilm you can order through an inter-library loan, if your local library has equipment to read microfilm. (See below) If you get a chance to read the admission form he would have filled out, then you should know for sure whether or not this is your Fred. The birth year looks promising.
Now for the good news! I found him again back in Biddeford living with his son, Leo Edward Jones in 1930. YEAH! Made me feel good to know he was back in the care of his family.
Head, ,Leo Jones, Age 37, Born abt 1893, Owner, Drug Store, Married, b/p Maine, Parents: Maine
Wife, Josephine Jones (Found her maiden name is English and they were married on 28 Jun 1920),
Age 34, Born abt 1896, New Hampshire; Father: Canada-French; Mother: Canada-French
Son, Robert, Age 8, Born abt 1922, Single, b/p Maine
Son, Frederick, Age 7, Born abt 1923, Single, b/p Maine
Dau, Eleanor, Age 4, Born abt 1925, Single, b/p Maine
Father, Frederick L. Jones, Age 61, Born abt 1869, Marital Condition reads Wd (for widower), Occ: Salesman-Help Son
Note: I believe the 1940 census comes out in April 2011.
Note: Leo Edward Jones is on the Old Biddeford Veterans List Veteran Index Cards compiled by the D.A.R. Believe you can find them through the Biddeford Library.
Note: I was not able to locate Frederick Jones’ grave yet, but I suspect it is in Biddeford. Perhaps the Biddeford Historical Society can give you some direction, or check with the McArthur Public Library. I believe they have some genealogical resources.
Below is info on the Alms House in Ulster, NY
New York State Board of Charities Census of Inmates in Almshouses and Poorhouses
Overview of the Records
Creator: New York (State). State Board of Charities
Title: New York (State). State Board of Charities census of inmates in almshouses and poorhouses
Quantity: 96.6 cubic feet
Summary: Chapter 140 of the laws of 1875 required public almshouses and poorhouses in New York State to keep records on individual inmates and to send copies of these records to the State Board of Charities each month. Census forms in this series provide information on individual inmates' personal, family, and economic history.
Series Number: A1978
Repository: New York State Archives
Address: New York State Education Department
Cultural Education Center
Albany, NY 12230
Series is arranged alphabetically by name of county or city institution, then chronologically by date of census or admission date.
Chapter 140 of the laws of 1875 required almshouses and poorhouses in New York State to keep records on individual inmates and to send copies of these records to the State Board of Charities each month. At a conference of the state's county superintendents of the poor, a committee developed the initial standard form used for census reporting. These forms were used until 1905, when the State Board of Charities introduced a revised version. A form was completed for each inmate upon admission and batches were sent to the Board of Charities monthly as directed by the 1875 statute.
Scope and Content Note
Census forms provide detailed information on almshouse and poorhouse inmates: date admitted (includes admissions from as early as 1828); sex; age; color; marital status; birthplace; last residence (1906-1921 only); how long in the U.S.; how long in the state (New York); at what port landed (1875-1905 only); if "head money" paid (1875-1905 only); if naturalized; when and where naturalized (1906-1921 only); birthplace of father; birthplace of mother; inmate's education (e.g. "read and write";"none"); habits (if temperate or intemperate); habits of father; occupation of father; habits of mother (1875-1905 only); if parents dependent or self-supporting; if grandparents, brother, sisters, and other relatives dependent or self-supporting (1875-1905 only); inmate's occupation; religion (1906-1921 only); if a parent, how many children living (1875-1905 only); health and dependency of children (1875-1905 only); what labor inmate can perform; if inmate has received public relief; if inmate has received private relief; if parents or other relatives have received relief (1875-1905 only); if inmate was previously in an institution; name and address of relatives or friends (1906-1921 only); and prospects for self-sufficiency (1875-1905 only).
Although the series covers the period from 1875 to 1921, some institutions are not documented for the entire time period. Forms from 1875 to the mid 1890s are in bound volumes; later forms are not bound. The census date is not identifiable for these loose forms. They are grouped at the end of each county or city by inmate admission date.
Use of Records
Available Alternate Formats
This series has been microfilmed on 225 rolls and is available for use onsite or through inter-library loan.
Geographic Name: New York (State)
Subject: Institutional care
Subject: Social service
Subject: Public welfare
Genre/Physical Characteristic: Census records
Dates Contents Roll
1838-1875 Ulster County Poor House 207
1876-1878 Ulster County Poor House 207
1877-1879 Ulster County Poor House 207
1880 Ulster County Poor House 207
1881-1884 Ulster County Poor House 207
1885-1891 Ulster County Poor House 207
1885-1891 Ulster County Poor House 208
1891-1894 Ulster County Poor House 208
1894-1898 Ulster County Poor House 208
1905-1906 Ulster County Poor House 208
1906-1908 and undated Ulster County Poor House 208
1908-1914 Ulster County Poor House 208
1914-1919 Ulster County Poor House 208
Fred Jones’ son Leo Edward Jones (Edward was Fred’s father’s name) was in military. See below
Name: Leo E. Jones
Serial Number: 2728257
Birth Place: Biddeford, Maine
Birth Date: 16 Apr 1892
Comment: Ind: Saco, York Co. No. 1, June 24/1918. Pvt; Cpl July 21/18; Sgt Oct. 21/18. Org: 151 Dep Brig to disch. Overseas service: None. Hon disch on demob: Dec. 4, 1918.
Note: The good-looking fellow in the newspaper below is Leo Jones (far right). I wasn’t able to copy it off the newspaper. You might need to get out your magnifying glass.
Then below the newspaper page, I am going to include the other Frederick Jones connected to Thomas H and Catherine in Cumberland Co, ME since I had already gathered that information. Perhaps it will help someone else.
This is the other Frederick Jones (Cumberland, Maine) family.
I will list the following censuses for you: 1880, 1900, 1910, 1920, & 1930. I also found Thomas and Fred on a list of those who served in the Spanish American War and found out that Thomas was buried in a Veterans National Cemetery in Maine, not too far from home. I found his grave listed on the VA National Registry website. Fred J. Jones is buried at Mt Hope Cemetery, Augusta, Kennebec County, ME.
1880 – In home at Cape Elizabeth, Cumberland, ME (Parents of Frederick Jones)
1. Thomas H. Jones, Head Age 34 Born abt 1846 Married His b/p: England; Father: England; Mother: England, Occupation: Plasterer
2. “Kate” (Next censuses show her name as Catherine), Wife, Age 27 Born abt 1853 b/p: New Brunswick; f: N/B; m: N/B
3. Gertrude, Dau, Age 3 Born abt 1877, b/p: Maine
4. Frederick, Son, Age 1 Born abt 1879, b/p: Maine
1900 – In home at South Portland, Cumberland, ME
1. Thomas H. Jones, Head, Age 53, Born abt Apr1847, Married 28 yrs; Marriage yr: 1872; b/p: England; F: Eng; M: Eng; Immigration year:1872
2. Catherine J., Wife, Age 43, Born about Dec 1856, Married 28 yrs; Marriage yr: 1872; b/p: Canada/England; Father: b/p Canada/England; Mother: Canada/England (Next census says Canada for Catherine and her parents. I believe her grandparents immigrated to Canada and then she and her parents were born there.) Immigration year: 1868
3. Gertrude F., Dau, Age 22, Born Dec 1877, Single b/p: Maine
4. Frederick J., Son, Age 20, Born Nov 1879, Single b/p: Maine
5. Alice A., Dau, Age 17, Born Nov 1882, Single b/p: Maine
6. Albert H., Son, Age 15, Born Dec 1884, Single b/p: Maine
7. Eddie L., Son, Age 13, Born Dec 1886, Single b/p: Maine
8. Flora J. Jones, Age 10, Born May 1890, Single b/p: Maine
9. Charles A. Jones, Age 6, Born Dec 1893, Single b/p: Maine
1910 In home with his mother, South Portland, Cumberland ME. Please note that the census lists her as married, not widowed, but Thomas H is not listed in the H.H. Thomas H. Jones’ date of death was 30 Oct 1918 per Dept of Veterans Affairs, Nationwide Gravesite Locator, so not sure why he is not on this census. Perhaps he was visiting elsewhere at the time.?? He is not on any further censuses and on the next one (1920) Catherine is listed as “Widow”. The recorder of this census is a year or two off on the birthdates. Fred’s DOB should be in 1879.
1. Catherine J. Jones, Head, Age 53, Born abt 1857, Married b/p:Canada F:Canada; M: Canada
2. Gertrude F., Dau, Age 30, Born abt 1880 Single b/p: Maine, Occ: Milliner
3. Fred J., Son, Age 29, Born abt 1881, M1 (Married one time) but no wife in HH, b/p: Maine, Occ: Laborer, Screen Factory
4. Alice A, Dau, Age 27, Born abt 1883, Single
5. Edward L., Son, Age 20, Born abt 1890, Single, Occ: Printer, Screen Factory
6. Flora J., Age 18, Born abt 1892, Single
7. Charles G., Age 16, Born about 1894, Single, Laborer, Screen Factory
1920 In home with his mother, South Portland, Ward 6, Cumberland, ME (Note that she is listed as a widow on this census. Interesting that the daughters seemed to have stayed unmarried and living in mother’s house to an older age. The sons seemed to have liked it there too. Perhaps it was just the times and finances pressed families all around. Just makes me wonder. Perhaps mom, Catherine, was simply a good cook and one who made her home welcoming to her children. Wonder who the granddaughter belongs to?
1. Catherine J. Jones, Head, Age 63, Born abt 1857, Widow, b/p Canada, F-M b/p: Canada
2. Frederick J. Son, Age 39, Born abt 1881, Still listed as married but no wife in HH, b/p: Maine, Occ: Laborer
3. Charles A., Son, Age 26, Born abt 1894, Single, Occ: Plumber
4. Gertrude F., Dau, Age 40, Born abt 1880 Single, Occ: Laundress
5. Flora J., Dau, Age 28, Born abt 1892, Single, Occ: Teacher
6. Harriet, Granddaughter, Age 9, Born abt 1911, Single
1930 In home with his mother, South Portland, Cumberland, ME (Change in Catherine’s parents b/p on this census from Canada to Ireland (??) (Birth dates still off some) Note that granddaughter is still in household but Flora is not there any longer, which seems to point to Gertrude as her mother.
1. Catherine J. Jones, Head, Age 75, Born abt 1855, Widow, Age at first marriage: 20, b/p: Canada/English Father: b/p Ireland; Mother: b/p Ireland
2. Gertrude T, Dau, Age 50, Born abt 1880, Single, Occ: Laundress
3. Fred J., Age 50, Born abt 1880, Still listed as married, but no wife in HH, Age at first marriage: 20 (which would put marr year as 1899 if use birth year 1879 which should be the correct birth year. This would also make the marr year correct with records.), b/p: Maine
4, Charles Jones, Son, 38, Born abt 1892, Single
5. Harriette, Granddaughter. Age 20, Born abt 1910
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