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Re: Fray (UK One Name study)
Posted by: Grace Beagley Date: June 29, 2001 at 06:32:51
In Reply to: Re: Fray (UK One Name study) by Evan James Fray of 140

I believe that you are linked to a group of FRAYís from Keynsham. These FRAYís were linked to the metal work trade, principally the brass works. Back in the 1960ís George Fray from Birmingham, did a lot of research on this line. He found an indenture for a John Varoy and concluded that the family were probably Dutch with the name Anglicised to Fray. Although this was the earliest Fray in this part of Somerset there were lines in both Wiltshire & Devon going back to 1500ís. My father believes that Varoy may be a clerks mis-spelling of Fray, the Devonshire accent would have made Fray sound very like Varoy, to someone not too familiar with it. Also the Dutch immigrants being brought over at the time were those already skilled in brass industry, not boys for apprenticeships.
I have not established a definite link to any other line (there are a lot of possible Johnís!). There are Fray and Frey in continental Europe. We know that some individuals arrived in the country in 1400ís & 1500ís but they settled in the South East of England.

Of you line :
Joseph (b 1755 d1802) who married Mary, was the son of John (1731-1770) and Jane nee Craymore his siblings were John (1753-1784), Hester (1757-1782), Mary (1759- ), Sarah (1762- ) Leah (1762-1765), William (1767-1860), George(1771-1840) and it was the desceneents of this George that took the family to Birmingham. I have details of the descendants through the male lines.

Joseph and Mary had William (1786- ), Ann Stifford (1788- ), John (1791- 1861), Henry (1793-1794), Henry (1797-1801), Edward Hatheway (1799-1814) and Virtue(1803- )

Note that a William Sifford married a Mary Hathaway at Pucklechurch, Gloucestershire in 1759 but I havenít found the birth of a Mary that could have married Joseph.

As far as I know the descendants of John (1791) and Ann were George (1820- ), William (1829-1865), Frederick (1831-1855), Edwin (1834 - ) and Emily (1841 - ). These are the only children that I know survive to marry, there may have been others that died in childhood.
I have a couple of Ďpossibleí references to the death of Edwin but without purchasing the certificate cannot be sure which if any refer to him. He certainly married twice, produced at least 12 children Ė the last in the mid 1880ís.
Frederick had no descendants as far as I am aware.
William had several children die in infancy, only Rhoda (1852) and George(1855) married.
George (1820) had issue Henry George Hawke (1845), Emily Augusta Ann (1847), Frederick John (1850-1850), Eliza Harriet (1852-1852), Frederick Alexander John (1854) and Virtue Mary (1857-1858). This is as much as I know of this particular line and if you have details of spouses or further issue I would be extremely grateful.

I am UK based, if you want further information on the other lines I can post you the charts if you care to send me your address. My e-mail address is (so you donít need to post your personal address on the web) but please note I am due to start maternity leave shortly (baby due August 2001) and am not sure if I will be returning to work or not so please donít leave it too long.

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