Gabel Family Genealogy Forum
Both these men ended up in Pennsylvania.
They initially settled in Montogomery Co., north of Philadelphia. Early records can be found in the Old Goshenhoppen Lutheran church records. I know Johan Philipp then moved further north into the Macungie region (west of Allentown). I am descended from Johan Philipp. Early information can be found in Annette Burgert's book from the Pennsylvania German Society, "Eighteenth Century Emigrants, The Western Palantine."