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JP - John GARMAN/Barbara VARNER are a different family and lived near the town of Dauphin which is about 6 miles north of Harrisburg. This John died in 1822. As best as I can tell, they came from Rapho Township in Lancaster County around 1790. John GARMAN and Elizabeth BERRINGER didn't arrive in Dauphin County until circa 1807. If you look on the BERRINGER forum, you'll see some of my posts on Elizabeth's ancestry. As far as this John's ancestry, no one has established his lineage. The closest I have come is in the records of the Court of Appeals of the 10th Battalion. In 1777, one John GERMAN (along with several other GERMAN's) were brought up on charges of failing to appear at a company muster. This John, listed as the son of Leon, produced a certificate from the Reverend W. Kurtz showing that he was born in May 1760. Of course the John buried at Shoops shows a birthdate of May 24, 1760. Whether they are one and the same, I cannot say. However, to my knowledge, no one has yet to produce any document which can prove Leonard and this John are father and son. Jim