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Re: William Garnes Sr. family of VA
Posted by: Brad L. Cooper Date: February 06, 2000 at 21:02:37
In Reply to: William Garnes Sr. family of VA by Brad L. Cooper of 104

I recently sent this to a third cousin once removed.

In 1987, I interviewed a first cousin once removed by telephone. Her name was
Millie McClelland Boicourt. Her grandmother Nellie Crocket Williams was my great
grandmother. Millie is now passed away (1996). During the phone interview,
Millie stated that the Williams family was originally from Virginia, and had
later moved to Tennessee. Millie thought she remembered being told that her
great-grandmother's (my gg-grandmother's) maiden name was "Garns." This was the
sum of her knowledge of this line.

My father and his two step sisters remembered my grandfather Cooper as having said that he spent some part of his childhood at Cumberland Gap (state not noted). "The" Cumberland Gap was found in Clairborne Co., Tennessee.

So here is the process:

1.) I checked the IDS IGI records for a Williams and Garnes marriage ca 1865 -
1875 in VA or TN. My grandfather was born in 1896, so his mother (Nellie Crocket
Williams) would have probably been born ca 1874 or before. The only Williams -
Garnes marriage in VA, which would allow a legitimate birth for Nellie, was
James W. Williams and Susan Mildred Garne"r" on 14 February 1870. I believe the
cursive writing of an s was misinterpreted as an r when typed into the LDS

2.) I then looked for an 1880 Census listing for James W. Williams in Wythe Co.,
VA. which would show a Susan as the wife. James W. Williams W M 42, mechanic,
born VA with parents born NC, was found in the US Census of Wythe County, VA,
Black Lick District, Village of Rural Retreat, 28 June 1880, Reel T-9, Roll No.
1394, vol. 32, E.D. 106, Sheet 56, Line 1, dwelling 491, family 539. Susan "N."
was listed as a 29? year old (just as likely read 27 suggesting 1853 birth) W F
wife. Nellie C. was listed as 2 years old.

An old letter written to my grandmother ca 1927 from Nellie's younger sister
Gene indicated that Nellie and Gene had a brother Edward.

Edward S. was age 7 in the before mentioned census. Other children Albert L.,
Nannie D.

3.) The 1900 US Census of Clairborne Co., TN Fourth Civil District, 4 June 1900
line 38 dwelling 76, family 77, shows a James W. Williams W M age 61 (born March
1839) born NC with parents born NC. He is listed as a lumber mill mechanic. Sue
M. age 47 born VA (ca 1853), with parents born VA. Children Edward, Nannie B.,
Gene O. Chestella (Christina?).

4.) There is a Crocket, VA in Wythe Co., VA located 8 miles east of Rural
Retreat. The Crocket family seems to be relatively prominent in Wythe Co., VA.
One physician who was 33 years old a lived 25 dwellings away from James W.
Williams and Susan Garnes in 1880 was Dr. Henry S. Crockett. I think Nellie's
middle name of Crocket has something to do with this man or his family. This is
only my suspicion.

The names, ages, birth places, professions (mechanic and lumber mill mechanic),
and family folklore would seem to indicate these two census listings are the
same family. In addition, the James W. Williams family (including Susan Mildred
Garnes Williams) is not in Wythe Co., VA in 1900.

The above info is why I believe my gg-grandmother was Susan Mildred Garnes. How
do I connect Susan to William Garnes Sr?

The only Garnes in Black Lick Twp., Wythe Co., VA in 30 June 1870 is 50 year old
William Garnes, W M found in series M593, roll 1682, page 401, or also T-8, roll
422, line 26, family 364, dwelling 360. William Garnes was listed as a day
laborer. I read the wife as "Kelly" but internet evidence shows I should have
read it as "Sally." The second child listed was Susan age 18 F W (thus born ca
1852.) No other Garnes were found in the 1870 US Census of VA index that lived
in Wythe Co., VA. Only one Garner was found in Wythe Co. Roda Gardner was a 25
year old black female in Speedwell Twp., VA.

I believe this is good evidence to suggest William Garnes is Susan Mildred's
father. Do you have any record of the bondsman in the Susan Mildred Garner(s)
and James W. Williams marriage? This might show the father. I am also troubled
by Susan's appearance in the William Garnes household in June 30, 1870 when she
is said to have married in 14 February 1870 to James W. Williams. Could the
transcriber of the marriage event have misread the date just as he or she might
have misread the name Garnes?

An e-mail dated 25 June 1999 from Joan Noman(?), addressed as J and H
<>, stated that Joan was a gg-grandchild of William G. Garnes and
Sally through their son Benjamin G. Garnes. Her family legend is that William
was a presbyterian minister (This would seem to have something to do with the
Cummings family. - note by Brad). Joan further stated that in 1860 William and
Sally Garnes are found in the US Census of Abingdon, Washington Co., VA. I have
not had the time to look up the 1860 reference to William in Abingdon. If that
family has Sally as wife, and Mary or Molly, Susan, William Jr., Milton,
Benjamin G., Walter, and possibly Franklin, I can full heartedly embrace William
Garnes of 1860 Washington Co., VA and William Garnes of 1870 Wythe Co., VA as
being one and the same. Do you have the exact reference of the 1860 census

If you can correct any of this please do so. If you can fill in any of the gaps,
I would appreciate it.

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