Starting Sept. 30, 2014, Genealogy.com will be making a big change. GenForum message boards, Family Tree Maker homepages, and the most popular articles will be preserved in a read-only format, while several other features will no longer be available, including member subscriptions and the Shop.
 
Learn more


Chat | Daily Search | My GenForum | Community Standards | Terms of Service
Jump to Forum
Home: Surnames: Giller Family Genealogy Forum

Post FollowupReturn to Message ListingsPrint Message

Edward Giller - England
Posted by: Gary Griswold (ID *****8590) Date: February 12, 2005 at 10:19:41
  of 14

Below is info obtained from a family bible belonging to E.A. Giller (England - White Hall, Illinois).


Descendants of Edward Giller


Generation No. 1

1. EDWARD GILLER. He married JANE.
       
Child of EDWARD GILLER and JANE is:
2.       i.       THOMAS GILLER, b. 12 Nov 1782, England; d. 20 Feb 1840, England.


Generation No. 2

2. THOMAS GILLER (EDWARD1) was born 12 Nov 1782 in England1, and died 20 Feb 1840 in England1. He married (1) JANE BOWERS1 01 Mar 1807 in St. Peters Church, Liverpool, England1, daughter of THOMAS BOWERS and JANE ?. She was born Feb 17811, and died 22 Feb 18141. He married (2) HANNAH (BAGULEY) BAGGLAY1 12 May 1818 in Collegiate Church, Manchester, England1. She was born 26 May 1787 in England, and died 1822 in England. He married (3) MARY DUFF1 18 Jul 1827 in St. Johns, Manchester, England1.
       
Children of THOMAS GILLER and JANE BOWERS are:
       i.       THOMAS3 GILLER, b. 31 Jan 1808.
       ii.       JANE GILLER, b. 25 Aug 1809.
       iii.       MARY GILLER, b. 19 Oct 1811; d. 10 Mar 1883.

       
Children of THOMAS GILLER and HANNAH BAGGLAY are:
       iv.       WILLIAM3 GILLER, b. 05 Apr 1819.
       v.       JOHN GILLER, b. 08 May 1820.
       vi.       EDWARD ALFRED GILLER, b. 11 Sep 1821, Manchester, England; d. 29 Mar 1907, White Hall , Greene County, Illinois; m. AUGUSTA LADD, 01 Mar 1849, Greene County, Illinois; b. 03 Mar 1830, Greene County, Illinois; d. 28 Sep 1918, White Hall , Greene County, Illinois2,3.

Notes for EDWARD ALFRED GILLER:
LETTER FROM MAJOR EDWARD A. GILLER
TO MARCUS NORTH


Camp Crockett
San Antonio, Texas
September 25, 1846

Marcus,
Once again I intrude myself upon your notice.In my last, I gave you a short account of our march to this place from Camp Irwin. It may be interesting to you to hear or read a little camp news. We have now been here two days over one month and for my part I think it will be hard to find a more convenient or beautiful place for an encampment. On Sunday last, we had a grand review of nearly all the forces under the command of Brigadier General Wood and I can assure you that it was a grand and imposing spectacle. There were the Dragoons with their long swords, short guns and pistols, the artillery with their brass cannon, and last though not least, the infantry with their knapsacks, guns and bristling bayonets. Then came the General with his Staff dressed in full uniform covered with gold lace and with beautifully waving plumes in their three cornered hats, mounted on high- mettled steeds prancing along the front of the line, the drums beating, the fifes playing and the bugles sounding. Great praise was given to the volunteers and I think they deserved it. In marching past the General and his Staff, which he ordered us to do in columns of companies, several of them remarked that had we been dressed as regulars, they should not have known the difference--which I think was quite a compliment.
Now a word as regards the Company from our County. Ever since Captain Fry made his first attempt to drill the men, it was evident to all that he knew nothing at all about it but the men were in hopes that he would learn but the result has been that he just knows as much now as he did when he started and that is, to speak plain, nothoing at all. For my part, my duties have kept me out of the Company most of the time but on Tuesday last, the men presented a petition to Fry asking him to resign, signed by fifty-two members of the Company, giving him their reasons and stating that nearly every man who was asked, signed it and as they composed four-fifths of the Company, they hoped that he would do them a kindness by doing so and furthermore stating that they wanted me to be their Captain. What was the result, I will try to tell you.
He immediately accused me of being the instigator of it. I was innocent and of course promptly denied it. He then told me that when the petition was presented to him, they said that they wanted me to be their Captain. I told him I could not help that. They were free men and had a right to say what they thought. I told him moreover that they were his equals and as such ought to be treated with respect. Further, I told him that I felt very much gratified to think that I had the confidence and respect of the whole Company and if doing my duty should retain that respect, I intended to retain it. He has since then retracted his words and now accuses Lieut. Winters of being the originator of it. I told him it was false for I knew that he as well as myself was clear and that if he would ask the Company, they would soon tell him who got it up and who was the originator of it. I do not know how it will end but I do not think that he has spunk enough to resign. Should he do so, I will not run for Captain over Winters without his consent.
In my next, I shall be able to give you the termination of it, most likely. Give my respects to your mother and all your family and to all who think enough of me to inquire about me, and believe me to be as ever,
Your friend
E.A. Giller
Post Script:

We have no news about the war. Two companies of the first regiment, two of the second, all the regulars with both cavalry and infantry, one company of Kentucky volunteers and the Flying Artillery has orders to take up their line of march for the Rio Grande on Saturday next. When the rest of us will follow is quite uncertain. We may not go at all.
If I had room, I would attempt a description of the Mexicanoes and the Texicanoes. Suffice it to say that in San Antonio, they are nearly all gamblers or worse. Excuse haste, bad accomodations and also a blunt pen and still blunter head. But still remember,
E.A. Giller

The preceding letter was typed from the original long hand by William Marshall Curtis, a grandson of the author in Jan. 1977. The letter was given to Marshall by his mother, Lora Giller Curtis, daughter of the author. The letter was written to Marcus North of White Hall, Illinois. Marcus was a cousin of Augusta Ladd who was to later marry E. A. Giller. Marcus' mother was Prudence Swallow North, the sister of Deidamia Swallow Ladd, mother of Augusta Ladd Giller. Thus they had mothers who were sisters and the same grandparents, Nahum and Deidamia Swallow. In the letter Giller writes,"Give my respects to your mother". This would have been Prudence Swallow North who was widowed on March 19 of the year the letter was written. Prudence lived to the age of 75. Marcus North, to whom the letter was written, was later married on March 1, 1850 to Elizabeth Wales and he died only 4 years later on May 2, 1850 at the age of 30 years.
A copy of the typewritten letter was given to Gary Griswold on Sept. 20, 1998 by David Giller.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

LETTER WRITTEN BY EDWARD A. (MAJOR) GILLER
MAY 2, 1847


Camp at Buena Vista near Saltillo, Mexico
May 2nd 1847


In order to show you that I have not entirely forgotten one who was kind enough to honor me with his friendship, I occasionally pen a disconnected epistle & direct it to yourself, thinking that the contents may at least amuse you during a few of our leisure moments & should I succeed in that, rest assured that my object will be achieved. In the first place confound the flies, they are very numerous & at the same time very troublesome & there is nothing in the shape of a Swallow or Bat to lessen their numbers. it is now May & in one short months time we expect to be miles from this place on our way to the Rio Grande . since the Battle we have had a dull monatonous time of it for assuredly a camp life is very disagreeably when situated as we are. Mails are very scarce & when they do come there is nothing much in them Books are scarce which makes it yet worse. & as for the News papers I should suppose that from their scarcity there is nothing like freedom of the Press in the States. & what is yet worse I have not received one single line from you since I left home. you must be very busy or you would surely write a line to an old friend in one of your leisure moments for you must know that it would be very welcome. The health of the command is not so good as it was two weeks back, there are two or three cases of small pox which caused quite an excitement. our Regt. suffers as little as any from sickness, as for myself I am in the enjoyment of first rate health for which I am very thankful. last week the two Ohio Regts. burnt Senator Corwin, in effigy, on account of his speech in the U.S. Senate, on the war. Taylor is at Monterey & Wool is in command at this place. I think this point will be abandoned when our term of service expires & Monterey will be the advance part of the army of occupation & in my opinion it will be good policy for I see nothing to be gained by holding this place. Col Doniphan is ordered here from Chihauhau with his command. & it is rumoured that Santa Anna was fighting Scott near Penote we do not know how true it is but it seems very probable. & if so Scott has a matter of course whipped him & is in route for the halls of the Montezumas we expect the troops will commence leaving here in a few days & expect to start ourselves in about 20 days so that if we have good luck we shall be at home by the fourth of July if not a short time before it is however very uncertain. I have received several letters from White Hall & in one of them I was apprised of the marriage of one of your cousins. it will oblige me if you will give her my best wishes for future happiness. remember me kindly to your mother & all the folks & if you see Isaac or his better half give them my best respects also my kind regards to Wm. McCollister & family & to all the rest of the Prairie folks. all the boys from & around White Hall are well so that should their friends enquire you can just state the fact to them. I must now close the mail leaves in a short time. no first. I wonder how you & (Miss - ?) .............. get along. I suppose as a matter of coarse that you visit their regularly & that you may succeed in all your undertakings is the worst wish of
your friend
E. A. Giller~~~
Sgt. Mjr. 1st Regt Ills. vols.
Excuse this
scrawl for it
is nothing else
& just consider
the source
Official
O.P.S.


------------------------------------------------------------------------

Envelope address to: Mr. Marcus North White Hall, Illinois Via N. Orleans


The original letter is in the posession of The Illinois State Historical Library in the Old State Capitol, Springfield, Illinois 62701
Copy recieved and transcribed on November 5, 1999 by Gary L. Griswold ( Great Great Grandson of Major E.A. and Augusta (Ladd) Giller.
This copy is as true as I can make out of the script handwriting of Major Giller.

__________________________________________________________________________________


MAJOR GILLER DEAD
_______

Was more than Four Score and Five-A Hero
of the Mexican War- Pioneer Settler
and Prominent Granger
_______

Major Edward A. Giller aged 85 years, 6 months and 18 days died at his home on W. Franklin Street this city at 7 o'clock p.m. Friday March 29, 1907. Funeral services were held at the late residence at 2 o;clock p.m. Sunday, March 31st. Dr. A. W. Foreman a long time personal friend and associate delivered the address in the presence of a large gathering of friends and relatives. A special quartet consisting of Dr. E K. Shirley, T.J. Grant, Elbert Green, and Alonzo Ellis sang "Going Down The Valley" and "The Soldiers Farwell". The floral offerings were beautiful and profuse. Pall bearers were Wm. H. Strang, O.F. Griswold, G.S. Vosseller, F.M. Baldwin, R.B. Winn, and W.M. Potts and the interment was made in the White Hall cemetry.
The subject of this sketch was born in Manchester, England, Sept. 1821, his parents being Thomas and Hannah Bagley- Giller, both of England. In early life he learned the trade of ____ in his fathers manufactory, and was also a good wood worker in the same business. His early educational training was limited to a meager knowledge of reading, writing, and arithmetic. Later in life by extensive reading he greatly increased his sphere of knowledge and was regarded by all who know him as a man well posted on many subjects, particulary history, agriculture and current topics.
When 20 years of age he and his cousin Robt. Frost migrated to America, landing in N.Y. the summer of 1842. They travled west as far as St. Louis, Mo. and shortly afterwards came to Greene County. For 3 years Mr. Giller followed different avocations and was for awhile located at Galena, Ill., later made the trip to New Orleans by boat. Remained there but a short time and returned as far as Natchez, Mississippi. In the spring of 1845 he again returned to White Hall and worked at the wagon trade.
The Mexican Wars having broken out in May 1846, he inlisted in Company C, 1st Ill. regiment commanded by the gallant Jno. J. Hardin. He took part in the battle of Bueno Vista, and served efficiently as sergeant-major. As a result of this service he acquired the title "Major" by which name he was ever afterwards familiarly and affectionately known. June 1847 he was mustered out of service and returned to White Hall where he resided during his long eventful life.
March 1st 1840 (should say 1849) he and Miss Augusta Ladd, who survives him, were married and they at once began housekeeping on Apple Creek Prairie where by frugal and energetic efforts they succeded in accumulating considerable wealth. Before removing to this city a few years ago, he divided among his children, approximately 1000 acres, or the proceeds thereof, of the most profitable and highly cultivated land in this section of the state. Since that time he had retired from active business pursuits and enjoyed a well earned rest.
Major and Mrs. Giller have been blessed with a family of eleven children, seven of whom survive as follows, Geo. A. of Daum vicinity, Wm. M. of Omaha, Neb., Chas. H. of White Hall, Thos E. of the old homestead, Apple Creek Prairie, Ella A. wife of the late F.D. Moulton, Apple Creek Prairie, Lora B. wife of W.G. Curtiss, Stockton, Ill., and Mrs. Sophronia J. Rickart who for several years past has resided with her parents. There are thirty one grandchildren and eleven great grandchildren living.
Mr. Giller was not a member of any religious or fraternal organizations. Being decidedly liberal in his views on these subjects. He was however, an honarary member of the G.A.R and always took an active part in the Grange meetings and organizations. He was for years Master of the State Grange, and had represented the state several times in the National meetings of that organization. He was very successful as an agriculturologist and took great intrest along those lines until the very last.
Politically he was a (Republican-?) always _________in the political welfare of the state and nation, though never aspiring to political _____ himself. The only public office he ever held was as school _____ he very efficiently served for ____years as treasurer of township 12 range 12.
He was a man of generous _____ jovial, hospitable and kind. In his wide acquaintance throughout the county and state he had _____ both young and old, who will be grieved to know that he has passed away.

Note: Some words could not be readable and were left blank.






White Hall, Greene County, Illinois Newspaper.
April 5, 1907 (Page 1, Column 4).

More About EDWARD ALFRED GILLER:
Burial: White Hall Cemetery, White Hall, Illinois

More About AUGUSTA LADD:
Burial: 30 Sep 1918, White Hall Cemetery, White Hall, Illinois

       
Children of THOMAS GILLER and MARY DUFF are:
       vii.       EMMA3 GILLER, b. 29 Apr 1828; d. 15 Jul 1863.
       viii.       ELIZA GILLER, b. 16 Apr 1829.
       ix.       GEORGE GILLER, b. 20 Jun 1831; d. 11 May 1833.
       x.       CHARLES HARRY GILLER, b. 25 Apr 1834.



Endnotes

1. Family Bible of E. A. Giller
2. "Carrollton Gazette," Mrs. Augusta Giller ... died at her home Sept. 28th.
3. "White Hall Register Republic," Oct. 4, 1918 Page 5, Augusta Ladd Giller ... last of a family of 13 children ... passing at 11 a.m. Sept. 28th. ... interment at White Hall Cemetery.




Notify Administrator about this message?
Followups:
No followups yet

Post FollowupReturn to Message ListingsPrint Message

http://genforum.genealogy.com/giller/messages/9.html
Search this forum:

Search all of GenForum:

Proximity matching
Add this forum to My GenForum Link to GenForum
Add Forum
Home |  Help |  About Us |  Site Index |  Jobs |  PRIVACY |  Affiliate
© 2007 The Generations Network