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Re: Snake, Wilson, and Stud Girty-Civil War Records
Posted by: Jim Sellars Date: March 03, 2002 at 15:08:40
In Reply to: Snake, Wilson, and Stud Girty-Civil War Records by Virginia Moore of 181

Hi Virginia,

I've been studying some old Cherokee records, mainly the Old Settler 1851 payroll and some land records dated 1842. I've wonderered why Snake Girty and Kah-u-gun-stah were not listed in the 1851 payroll, now I think they were. The Jack Girty family was family 109 in the 1851 list. Family 110 was one peron named Ka-ya-ker-star. I believe this is Snake's wife. She would have been about 9 years old at the time if census ages are close. Jack Girty received her 1851 payment because she was a minor. I doubt she was Jacks or Cher-lor-nee-jay's daughter since she wasn't in Jacks family group, but she may have lived with them. Family 111 in Canadian District is a man named Crying Snake, who I believe may be Snake Girty. In looking through the 1842 land records it listed many times Crying Snake (or E-mah-dah-ne-yer-gah). E-mah-dah-ne-yer-gah is also the Cherokee name of Snake Girty. Also listed with Crying Snake's family group was Ar-na-lees-ky and Taney. In the 1867 census there was an 18 year old name Tah-nee living with Snake and his wife. It's possible that Crying Snake and Snake Girty are one in the same. I don't think he started using the Girty name until the Civil war when it was required that he have an English name.

I'm going back to the library later in the week to look over the 1842 land records for clues. For one Crying Snake and Ka-ya-ker-star were alive in 1896 when they received payment. The names that appeared on the old Settler roll may have been the ones they used to get payment, plus it may also explain why Snake's children were not listed as payees. Since their father was still alive he would have received the payment. In the unclaimed roll "Mrs. Snake Girty" was listed as an heir to John Locke. Not sure of the connection here. Lastly Ka-ya-ker-star is listed with some of the Girtys in the 1896 payroll, and they shared some sort of family connection, maybe an uncle or aunt.

Any ideas, could this be accurate?


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