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My Godin pioneer ancestors
Posted by: Janet Manseau (ID *****2030) Date: February 08, 2010 at 09:55:06
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Hi, I am posting the data and notes that I have for some of my pioneer ancestors, in hopes that they may be of interest to some of you that are doing research on your ancestors.

       1. Elie1 Godin was born about 1621 in Saintes, Saintonge, France, and died 05 Jan 1672 in Ste. Anne de Beaupré, Montmorency, QC. He married Marie-Esther Ramage 22 Mar 1639 in Calvanist Temple, La Rochelle, Aunis, France. She was born about 1622 in La Rochelle, Aunis, France.

Notes for Elie Godin:
Both Élie Godin and his wife Esther Ramage, originated from l'évêché Saintes, in Saintonge, department current of the Charente-Maritime. They were married on March 22, 1639, at the Calvinist temple in La Rochelle, in Aunis, France.
This couple is identified with the beginnings of the parish of Sainte Anne de Beaupré. They must have arrived in Canada between 1652 and 1655. About forty years after the founding of Québec, This Huguenot with two children came to settle in the Seigneurie of Beaupré. He is noted as being in Chateau Richer on 2 Feb 1660. They converted to Catholicism. Reverand François of Laval confirmed them on the 2nd of February 1660 at Chateau Richer.
In 1662, Esther Ramage, aged 46, had suffered for 18 months of a very painful sickness. She was so bent by the pain that she could only get around by dragging herself with a cane. She had lost all hope of recovery when she remembered the story her husband had told her about Claud Guimont who, in his presence, was suddenly cured of a very painful kidney disease as he was placing, in devotion, three stones on the foundation of the church of Sainte Anne, which was just being built. The poor cripple then prayed to the saint and implored her to grant to her the same miracle that was given to that man. At that same instant, forgetting her cane, she found herself on her feet standing straight up, walking with all the ability that she ever had. From that moment Esther Ramage remained in perfect health. This miracle served to confirm the new faith of that family.
Two years later, in 1664. the husband of Esther Ramage, Élie Gaudin, aged about 50+, was ill of a debilitating sickness to which the remedies brought little pain relief or cure, thought himself near dead and summoned the missionary of Saint-Anne, who was then Father Thomas Morel to give him the last rights. This missionary counselled Élie to pray to the Virgin Mary and Sainte-Anne. Rev. Morel proceeded to the church to say a mass for his intention. Upon returning to provide holy communion, Élie Gaudin, with a serene look said to him: "Sir, I am healed, please let me get up. While you were at the church, as I was praying with my beads, I gently fell asleep and I saw two venerable ladies approach me. One held a box in her hand, which she opened and showed it to me. Inside I saw a long and narrow road which led to Heaven. At this sight, I found myself filled with consolation and completely free of my ailment." After holy communion, Élie Gaudin praised God, got up, and went to church and before he finished his novena, he was in a state of health as before his sickness.
In the 1666 Beaupre Canadian census, he is listed as "hellie godin" age 45 a Matelot (sailor/seaman). Four of his children are listed also. Their ages differ slightly in the 1666 and 1667 Beaupre census where he was recorded as being 50 years old. They owned 6 arpent of land in 1667.
Élie lived for another eight years after this miraculous cure. His body was buried in the old cemetery of Sainte-Anne on January 5, 1672, at the recorded age of 60. Esther Ramage was recorded as being 42 years old in the census of 1666 and 45 in the following year's census. She was 60 years old in 1681 at Beaupré.
Their son Jacques Gaudin, born in 1658, consecrated his life to the seminary of Québec as a lay person and died at Saint-Joachim in 1735 and their only other son died at 24. The surname Godin that are traced to the 1600s today are not ancestors of Elie.
A Skeptic's Theory
I must admit that I am a true skeptic and that I have lived long enough to realize that many strange things can happen. I do not considered the above incidents to be miracles. I can only imagine that these pioneers lived a very hard life and that they were perhaps in constant pain by the time they were in their 40s and that many had learned to live with this constant pain and continued to push themselves just because they had to, while others just sat there and suffered.
This couple were originally Calvinist that converted to Catholicism in the early 1660. With their new found strong religious beliefs, it is quite possible that they found themselves truly believing in miracles and finally pushed themselves physically. As a result just this physical push can get you on the way of recovery. At that same time the Catholic church had just built and new (Sainte Anne's) church. What better than to declare a few miracles to get a new parish up on their feet.
My own mother reached a point in her mid 60s that she could not walk one short block. She had been very active all her life and once she retired she was going to take it easy. She sat around knitting most of the day and gained a lot of weight. After a short while, her back and hips hurt so bad that she did not want to get out of her chair. Her doctor gave her shots to relieve the pain for awhile. Then we convinced her to do some stretches before getting out of bed and walk around the house a little bit every day. She is now 90 and is very active and always on the go. Was this a miracle?a Upon arriving, Claude and his friend Julien went to the Seigneurie de Beauport (situated between where Québec stands today and the Mount Morency Falls to the north) to secure food and lodging. It appears that Claude had come with some funds of his own (being his father's heir as well as an accomplished tailor) and had come to New France not as an indentured servant but rather under the protection of Monsieur Giffard with some freedom to travel, which he did. We next find him, on October 26, 1650, in the office of Oliver Letardif, agent for the Seigneurie de Beaupre, for the purpose of buying a tract of land with one fifth of a mile fronting on the river and about five miles deep into the interior. This tract was located about three miles northeast of where the church of Sainte-Anne-de-Beaupre stands today. Three years later, on October 1, 1653, Claude wanted to sell this tract to a Louis Guimond, but the sale was not approved (as it had to be, by the royal charter company) until October 1, 1657, for which he received 600 livres, a fair sum in its day, which amounted to approximately $1,200 in 1968 Canadian currency.
In October of 1661 Claude and Louise were forced to leave the area in haste and abandon their farm because of Iroquois incursions on their land. The Iroquois (mostly bands of Mohawks and Oneidas) had been terrorizing the region since June of that year. The family takes refuge at Chateau Richer, below Sainte-Anne-de-Beaupre, and does not return to the farm for several years. Their next four children are born at the Chateau. Louise's father disappears very mysteriously one day, probably abducted by savages.
Claude and Louise eventually returned to the Cap Tourmente area after the Iroquois problems had subsided following the arrival of a regiment of regular soldiers from France. Claude is listed in the census of 1666 as having a wife and four children living at Cap Tourmente, with the widow Gasnier (Louise's mother) and her children living nearby. The following year the census taker noted that Claude Bouchard owned 7 head of livestock and had 8 arpents of land under cultivation (one arpent being approximately equal to five-sixths of an acre).
We next find Claude, in 1675, anxious to again make a move. He sells some land and obtains 12 arpents of frontage land at Petite Riviere. He then obtains additional land in 1676 in the same area. Furthermore, Claude is commissioned by the Lord Bishop to explore an area called Saint-Aubin which was in the domain of Baie Saint-Paul. He then lived in the Baie Saint-Paul area for a while. It appears that he finally settled his family in the area of Petite Riviere at a place called Cap a Maillard.
Claude and Louise had 12 children, six boys and six girls. The baptisms of Rosalie, Claude Junior, and Louis are all recorded at Saint-Anne-de-Beaupre, which attests to the fact that the family, during the period of 1676-1680, lived somewhere in the area of the Seigneurie de Beaupre.
Of the six boys which Claude and Louise had, only three survived into adulthood (Jacques died in a drowning accident at age 18, with Gilles and Claude Junior having died in infancy). Before his death, Claude, wanting to make a distribution to his children, on October 19, 1698, passed to his surviving sons ten arpents each of land fronting on the river. Claude died on November 25, 1699 at the age of 73. Details on his life follow.
Louise, in March of 1700, deeded some prairie land to each of her sons in law, Rene Lavoye, Michel Tremblay, and Etienne Simard. Louise outlived her husband by some 22 years. She was 79 at the time of her death in April of 1721.
Their son Antoine a farmer, died in a cabin in the woods while hiding in the area of Baie Saint-Paul where he and other neighbors had taken refuge to avoid the passage of the troops of the English General Wolfe who was conducting a terror campaign up and down the river in the hope of drawing out the french General Montcalm's troops out of their fortifications in Québec. The tactic failed, but Wolfe was nonetheless successful the following September in defeating Montcalm on the Plains of Abraham above Québec, which eventually resulted in the end of the Colony of New France in North America.

Notes for Marie-Esther Ramage:
In the 1666 Beaupre Canadian census she is listed as "Marie Ramage" age 42. Also listed is her husband and 4 children. My ancestor Anne is listed separately with her husband Rene. Marie is listed in the Beaupre 1681 census as being 60 and her son Jacques 24 and owning 16 arpent of land.

Children of Elie Godin and Marie-Esther Ramage are:
+       2       i.       Anne2 Godin, born 16 Oct 1639 in Temple Calvinist, La Rochelle, Aunis, France; died 26 Feb 1678 in Ste. Anne de Beaupré, Montmorency, QC.
       3       ii.       Jeanne Godin, born 09 Oct 1643 in La Rochelle, Aunis, France; died 22 Nov 1651 in La Rochelle, Aunis, France.
       4       iii.       Helie Godin, born 03 Sep 1645 in La Rochelle, Aunis, France; died 08 Mar 1652 in La Rochelle, Aunis, France.
       5       iv.       Marie Godin, born 10 Jun 1647 in La Rochelle, Aunis, France; died 14 Jan 1652 in La Rochelle, Aunis, France.
       6       v.       Pierre Godin, born 21 May 1650 in Temple Calviniste, La Rochelle, Aunis, France; died 22 Jan 1674 in Ste. Anne de Beaupré, Montmorency, QC.
       7       vi.       Marie-Charlotte Godin, born 29 Aug 1655 in Québec City, QC; died 23 Mar 1736 in Rivière des Prairies, QC. She married (1) Pierre Frichet, (Jean & Jacquette Goyon) 09 Nov 1671 in Ste. Anne de Beaupré, QC; born about 1650 in Poitiers, Poitou, France; died 27 Dec 1677 in Beaupré, QC. She married (2) Pierre Laforest 27 Jul 1679 in QC; born about 1646.
       8       vii.       Jacques Godin, born about 1657 in Unknown, QC; died 21 Jan 1735 in St. Joachim, QC.

Generation No. 2

       2. Anne2 Godin (Elie1) was born 16 Oct 1639 in Temple Calvinist, La Rochelle, Aunis, France, and died 26 Feb 1678 in Ste. Anne de Beaupré, Montmorency, QC. She married Rene Lavoie 14 Apr 1656 in Ste. Anne de Beaupré, Québec City, QC, son of Rene Lavoie and Isabelle Belanger. He was born 28 Nov 1628 in St. Maclou, Rouen, Normandie (Seine-Maritime), France, and died 11 Mar 1696 in Château Richer, Montmorency, QC.

Notes for Anne Godin:
She was the oldest child of Élie Godin and Ester Ramage. Anne was born on October 16, 1639 and baptized two days later at the Calvinist Temple in La Rochelle, France.
She arrived in Canada as a young girl with her parents.
Comment: Monsignor de Laval confirmed 173 People, among whom were Éli, Ester and Anne Godin. Included in this confirmation were Éli Godin and Ester Ramage, Parents of Éli, Ester and Ann Godin. Ester and Ann both converts of Catholicism and she had her children baptized Nov. 1655. Confirmation: 2 February 1660, Chateau-Richee, by Monsignor de Laval.
She died at about 38 only 6 week after giving birth to her 8th child. She was exhausted and anguished. She had gone through an attack of the Iroquois in the spring of 1661 and an earthquake in the winter of 1663. She was buried close to St. Anne's church on Feb. 27, 1678.

Notes for Rene Lavoie:
In recording their marriage information on 14 April 1656, the Jesuit Priest Paul Ragueneau wrote that Rene De La Voye was 25 and that Anne Godin was 15 years old.
He is listed in the Beaupre 1666 Canadian census as "René de la Roy (de la Voye)" as being 33, hence he was born about 1633. Also listed was his wife Anne Godin 28 and their three older children.
He was baptized 3 Apr 1657 at Ste. Anne de Beaupré, Montmorency, QC about the same time as his son Rene's birth. They are also listed in the Beaupre 1667 census as having 4 arpents under cultivation. One arpent is about one and a half acre of land.
René was dismayed by the sudden death of his wife. He had to deal with the raising of his young children as well as the arrival of the army of the Phipps (32 ships with 2000 men) in the autumn of 1690.
He died in 1696 at age 67 and 3 months. The resident cure Father G. Gaultier wrote that Rene was 63 years old.
The name "René de la Roy (de la Voye)" as recorded in the census translates to "René of the King (of the road)".
The Lavoie Family Association is going to unveil a commemorative plaque at 15:00 hrs of the afternoon of the 16th of September 2006 at the little chapel of Ste-Anne-de-Beaupré, Quebec, situated north of Chemin Royal . At 16:15 there will be a ceremony to change the name of Côte-Ste-Anne to Côte René de Lavoye. And finally at 16:45 on the grounds of École Secondaire Mont Ste-Anne (Rene Delavoye ancestral land), 10975 Blvd Ste-Anne, will be held the unveiling of a monument in honor of Rene Delavoye, ancestor of most Lavoie of North America. To complete this festivity, there will be a 5PM to 7PM get together at l’Auberge La Camarine, which is also built on the ancestral land of Rene, 10947 Blvd Ste-Anne.
Children of Anne Godin and Rene Lavoie are:
       9       i.       Rene3 Lavoie, born about 1657 in Unknown, QC; died 08 Dec 1731 in Baie St. Paul, Charlevoix, QC. He married Marguerite Bouchard 04 Nov 1683 in Ste. Anne de Beaupré, Montmorency, QC; born 15 Oct 1665 in Château Richer, Montmorency, QC; died 06 Apr 1731 in Baie St. Paul, Charlevoix, QC.

Notes for Rene Lavoie:
He was 9 in the 1666 Beaupre census. He was listed as being 24 in the 1681 Census and a worker at the Seminar. In his adult life, Rene was a cultivator and farmer.

Notes for Marguerite Bouchard:
She was 4 months old in the 1666 Beaupre Canadian census.

       10       ii.       Jean-Francois Lavoie, born about 1661 in Unknown, QC; died Bef. 1718 in Unknown, QC. He married Marie-Madeleine Boucher 22 Oct 1688 in Notre Dame de Liesse, Rivière Ouelle, Kamouraska, QC; born 21 Jun 1670 in L'Ange-Gardien, QC; died 03 Mar 1723 in Hôtel Dieu de Québec City, QC.

Notes for Jean-Francois Lavoie:
He was 6 in the Beaupre Canadian 1666 census and 8 in the 1667 census. He is listed as being 17 in the 1681 Sote St. Ignace census and a domestic for Francois Guyon.

       11       iii.       Anne Lavoie, born 17 Feb 1664 in Château Richer, QC; died 03 Aug 1686 in Ste. Anne de Beaupré, Montmagny, QC. She married Pierre Allard, (Pierre & Mathurine Verdon) 22 Nov 1683 in Ste. Anne de Beaupré, Montmagny, QC; born about 1653 in Lucon, Poitou, France; died 18 Sep 1703 in Beaupré, QC.
       12       iv.       Pierre Lavoie, born 15 Aug 1666 in Château Richer, Montmorency, QC; died 27 Apr 1736 in Berthier en Bas, Montmagny, QC. He married (1) Constance Duchesne-dit-Lapierre 02 May 1696 in St. François de l'Île d'Orléans, Québec, Canade; born 12 Feb 1673 in Ste. Famille, QC; died Bef. 11 Dec 1715 in Berthier en Bas, Montmagny, QC. He married (2) Marie-Madeleine Tourneroche 10 Feb 1716 in St. Michel, La-Durantaye, QC; born 18 Mar 1679 in Ste. Famille, Île d'Orléans, QC; died 27 Apr 1736 in Berthier en Bas, Montmagny, QC.

Notes for Pierre Lavoie:
"SEPULTURE COMMUNE AVEC SON EPOUX", Pierre and his second wife Marie Madeleine Tourneroche died on the same day.

       13       v.       Jacques Lavoie, born 12 Sep 1669 in Château Richer, Montmonrency, QC; died 03 Jan 1752 in Petite Rivière St. François, QC. He married (1) Angelique Garand, (Pierre & Catherine Labrecque) 15 Feb 1706 in Baie St. Paul, QC; born 12 May 1686 in St. Laurent de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; died 17 May 1718 in Baie St. Paul, QC. He married (2) Marie Barbeau 07 Aug 1719 in St-Charles, Charlesbourg, QC; born about 1685 in L'Ancienne Lorette, QC.
       14       vi.       Marie-Madeleine Lavoie, born 01 Apr 1672 in Ste. Anne de Beaupré, Montmorency, QC; died 06 Jun 1743 in Château Richer, QC. She married Etienne Godard-dit-Lapointe, (Fran.& L. Leriche) 06 Oct 1687 in Ste. Anne de Beaupré, Montmorency, QC; born about 1659 in Île de France, France; died 26 Feb 1724 in Château Richer, QC.
       15       vii.       Brigite-Marie Lavoie, born 24 Mar 1675 in Ste. Anne de Beaupré, Montmorency, QC; died 13 Dec 1748 in St. Augustin, Portneuf, QC. She married Charles Routhier, (Jean & Catherine Meliot) 03 Nov 1697 in Unknown, QC; born 20 Aug 1677 in Cote Saint Francois Xavier, Québec Canada; died 26 Mar 1747 in Hôtel Dieu de Québec City, QC.

Notes for Charles Routhier, (Jean & Catherine Meliot):
His mother, "Filles à Marier", page 221, Catherine Meliot arrived in New France as a single girl in 1662. She married Jean Routhier on 20 Nov 1662 in Québec, City. Their biography is in the book of single girls that pioneered New France, Page 221.

       16       viii.       Joseph Lavoie, born 13 Jan 1678 in St. Anne de Beaupré, QC; died 20 Apr 1727 in St. Joachim, QC. He married (1) Marie-Francoise Guimond 21 Nov 1701 in Ste. Anne de Beaupré, Montmorency, QC; born 17 Jan 1685 in Beaupré, QC; died Bef. 25 Nov 1726 in Unknown, QC. He married (2) Catherine Allaire/Dallaire 25 Nov 1726 in St.Francois de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; born 15 Feb 1698 in St. Jean de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; died 11 Jan 1759 in L'Îsle aux Coudres, QC.

My resources are limited because I live in Oregon. I hope that you use this information only as a guide. I welcome corrections and additions from anyone that has access to the original files.

Originally I paid a genealogy society to trace the direct lines for 6 of my 8 great grandparents. They used the books that were compiled by volunteers for each parish. Because so many individuals had the same name, I eventually found some errors in these books. Then I used Tanguay and found out that he may be about 75% right and Jette (that goes to 1730) is about 90% right. Then just as I thought that I was finished, I found PRDH (University of Montreal) and I believe that they may be 98% right and still make corrections to their records. They go up to 1799 for marriage contracts and 1850 for some deaths. Some people have the luxury of having the original records at their disposal. I do not have that and with 17,000 individuals in my data base, I can not afford to pay for copies of all the originals. At that point I confirmed every that I had with the records at PRDH. Whenever I say “about” for a birth date it means that PRDH did not find it or if it is in the 1800s, I did not look it up because of my lack of resources.

PRDH uses the most common spelling variation for the names. This makes it easier to trace the families. They do not always use the original name that appears on the contracts or birth records. That is ok with me, because many individuals before the 1900s could not sign their names and did not even care how others spelt it. As a result the same person’s name took on a variety of spellings. I also kept the “dit” (aka) names because eventually brothers from the same family, picked a different aka name.

As for the pioneers, I also used Peter Gagné’s English books on the single girls that arrived in New France between 1634 & 1662 and his book on the single girls that are referred to as the King’s Daughters that arrived between 1663 & 1673. These girls were recruited and paid by the King to go to New France (Québec) to get married and colonize the area.

Most of my information for the 1800-1900s comes from people on the web. The program that I use does not allow for baptismal dates, so if I don’t have a birth date, I use the baptismal date. The same goes for death vs. burial dates and actual wedding vs. contract dates. The newer programs have these features, but I will not be going through 17,000 records to make the changes.

It is like I said in the beginning; use this information as a guide only. I view genealogy as a hobby and not as pure science.

As for the stories, I got them all in French on the web and I translated them for my grandchildren. I had not read or spoken French in over 40 years, so it was difficult and may not be the best translation.

Enjoy, Janet

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