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Re: Gottfredsen/MA/FL/DENMARK
Posted by: Birte Holst (ID *****2303) Date: October 03, 2007 at 17:15:04
In Reply to: Re: Gottfredsen/MA/FL/DENMARK by William Doherty of 9

Hi William!

I'm very busy at my work at the moment, so I don't have the time to help you right now, but:

You can find information on births, deaths and marriages in the danish churchbooks on this site:
http://www.arkivalieronline.dk/English/default.aspx

Information from census 1787, 1801, 1834, 1840, 1845, 1850, 1855, 1860, 1870, 1880, 1890, 1901, 1906, 1911, 1916, 1921 is on this site:

http://www.ddd.dda.dk/ddd_en.htm

Not all parishes are covered in all the census.

From the information so far you should look for the mother Petrine christine Thomasdatter's birth in Flade parish.

In danish a parish is called "sogn".

On this site you find a map of denmark with "amt"=county, "herred" and "sogn"=parish.
http://www.dis-danmark.dk/kort/kort.htm

The family you are looking for were coming from the most northern county ("amt") in denmark called "Hjørring amt".
so on the map you click on "Hjørring", then you can se a map of "hjørring amt", with all of the parishes.

The parish "Flade" is situated in the most northern "Herred" called "Horns Herred".

If you want to find out, where a parish is situated there's a site, where you can search for the parish-names:
http://www.krabsen.dk/stednavnebase/

This should give you a possibility to go on on your own.

If you have any trouble or any problems please use the danish forum:
http://www.dis-danmark.dk/forum/index.php

Here are the father Gotfred Olsen with his family in 1832:

hjoerring, Horns, Hirsholmene, Hirsholmene, , 13, FT-1834, B3519
Navn:        Alder:        Civilstand:        Stilling i husstanden:        Erhverv:        Fødested:
Ole Jørgensen       35        Gift              Lods       
Cecilia Pedersdatter       28        Gift              Hans kone       
Jørgen Peter Olsen       5        Ugift              Deres børn       
Gotfred Olsen       2        Ugift              Deres børn       
Cecilia Christine       7        Ugift              Deres børn       
Cecilia Christine Svendsen       20        Ugift              Tjenestepige       


in 1845:

hjoerring, Horns, Hirsholmene, Hirsholmene, Et huus, 29, FT-1845, b7005
Navn:        Alder:        Civilstand:        Stilling i husstanden:        Erhverv:        Fødested:
Ole Jørgensen       46        Gift              Lods og fisker       Hirsholmene Hjørring amt
Cecilie Pedersdatter       39        Gift              Hans kone       Hirsholmene Hjørring amt
Cecilie Marie Olesdatter       18        Ugift              Deres barn       Hirsholmene Hjørring amt
Jørgen Peter Olsen       16        Ugift              Deres barn       Hirsholmene Hjørring amt
*Gotfred Olsen       13        Ugift              Deres barn       Hirsholmene Hjørring amt
Ane Fedime Olsen       6        Ugift              Deres barn       Hirsholmene Hjørring amt
Antomine Julie Olsen       1        Ugift              Deres barn       Hirsholmene Hjørring amt


and in 1850:

hjoerring, Horns, Hirsholmene, Hirsholmene, et hus, 6, FT-1850, B3264
Navn:        Alder:        Civilstand:        Stilling i husstanden:        Erhverv:        Fødested:
Ole Jørgensen       51        Gift              Beltlods       Hirsholm
Cecilie Marie Pedersen       44        Gift              hans kone       Hirsholm
Jørgen Peter Olesen       21        Ugift              deres børn, Jungmand       Hirsholm
Gotfred Olesen       18        -              deres børn       Hirsholm
Anne Medina Olesen       10        -              deres børn       Hirsholm
Antomine Julie Olesen       7        -              deres børn       Hirsholm
Marcus Peter Olesen       1        -              deres børn       Hirsholm

So you should look for the father Gotfred Olsens birth in "Hirsholmene" parish, also situated in "Horns Herred".

You most probably find the marriage of gotfred Olsen and Petrine Christine Thomasdatter in either "Flade" or "Frederikshavn" parish, around 1855, as their oldest son Ole Gotfredsen is 24 years in 1880, and he is born in Flade parish.

Before 1850,
- normally the children got their fathers given name as their familyname,
so if the father was called Gotfred Olsen, the children got the name Gotfredsen [the son of Gotfred]or Gotfredsdatter [the daugther of Gotfred] as their familyname, and you know, that the given name of Gotfred Olsens father was Ole, but you don't know what his last name was.
- and the wife didn't change her familyname when she got married.

In denmark we don't call it given name and family name,
we call it "front name" and "after name", and if you have a name in between we call it "in between name".


Good luck, and
Best wishes
Birte


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