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There is two different views about William Jacob Grammer. I am one of grammers that believe he was john grammer's father.your date that you have is the same as we do. Some say that Mary and Shaine were sisters. But then there is no one has been able to split the children to Mary are Shaine so the way I have it is Mary/Shaine the following children are Jacob Grammer,John Jacob Peter Grammer, Joseph Peterson Grammer, Mary S. Grammer, John (Senior) Grammer,DOB-Abt 1770 in Germany or America Married Elizabeth Abernathy 3-29-1792 Dinwiddy County, St. Peterburg, VA. DOD (John) 8-10-1840 in Morgan County, Alabama. Peggy Miller
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