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James and Mary Greenway, Sons Thomas and James and son of Thomas, James Joseph.
Posted by: Keith Greenway (ID *****0278) Date: February 07, 2006 at 15:01:05
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RE : Greenway family genealogy forum

Greenway, Grenaway, Grenawey, Grinaway, etc.

A certain amount of illiteracy and bad bookkeeping, the Anglicising of Irish, etc are possibly, some reasons for different spellings of the same name, record keeping also tends to show differences in ages of individuals. It is said that some people, did not know the exact dateís as they were not recorded fully, but having an idea, guessed, we believe that and some may have lied, especially to go to sea and war etc.

Although always in my time, I recall Greenway used as my surname, My beloved Grandmother, always pronounced my brother Kevinís name, Keevan and the family name Grenawey. Perhaps an indication of Irishness and even if the origins were from the mainland, perhaps an attempt to distance themselves from Englishness and fit in with our Celtic Cousins. It is possible that when the British Government gave Irish land to English settlers, the name entered in this way. Greenway is one family name, mentioned in the history of Bandon, arriving via Kinsale, prior to setting up home in the Cork area.

Birth entries do not really show, whether a Cork entry is for Cork City or County, Kinsale is in County Cork, although as Kinsale, itself is also mentioned in some records, we assume that as it was unlikely that women in labour would have travelled to the City, for child birth, at some stages, residence in Cork was likely.

With Anglicising an Irish place, word etc., would have been converted to the closest English word etc. A MORE ROMANTIC NOTION POSSIBLY, AS THE GREENWAY NAME IS HISTORICALLY WELL RECORDED IN THE UK.

Merchant Navy records show differences in birth dates for both Thomas and James, these may again have been a conscious action to enable an earlier need to both work and earn, also to go to sea at a younger age than the rules permitted. The Cork area is further historically linked with ocean travel to the Americas, and Cobh, (Queenstown) was the most westerly point, to stop off and for the supply of provisions etc, prior to an ATLANTIC VOYAGE.

Lest we forget, Lusitania sinking on May 7, 1915. Off the Old Head of Kinsale.

A few years ago the Merchant Navy Association from Barry Dock in Wales, as they looked out across the sunlit waters 15 miles south of Courtmacsherry, near Kinsale, on a day when the weather was similar to that of the sinking all strong men who had seen and experienced a lot at sea themselves and lost companions and relations during the Second World War, all had tears in their eyes, imagining what it must have been like for those aboard the Lusitania.

The Titanic also had some final links with the area, before becoming a port of call for large ocean liners like the Queen Mary and Queen Elizabeth. Thus, Cobh was the point of departure for a million Irish emigrants who set sail for New York. The monument on the quayside depicts a young girl and her two brothers, the first Irish people to be admitted by American customs and who, because of this, were given 50 dollars to start their new life. On 11th April 1912, the Titanic called at Cobh, which was to be the only port of call on its fatal voyage. Some bodies were returned and buried at Kinsale and an inquest held at Kinsale.

RIP.

Meanwhile take a look at Kinsale : www.kinsale.ie


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