I am not related to the Harms name but researching Esch I found a John Harms living with Henry & Sophia Engelmann-Esch on 1880 Census for Green Garden Twp, Will Co. He was 16, a farm laborer b. Mecklenburg. So looking into Harms I found the following 3: (hopefully it may help someone):
1)John H. Harms 37, farmer, b. Hannover
wife Louise 28, b. Mecklenburg, 2 kids: John 2, b. IL and Lizzie 1, b. IL. Also residing with them was Loiuse's mother Sophia Wieting 78, b. Mecklenburg and Ludwig Sandrock 16, b. IL a farm laborer.
2) Hinrich Harms 26, farmer b. IL
wife Marie 22, b. IL, 1 child: Marten 3/12 b. IL and Hinrich's widowed father-Henry 64, b. Oldenburg.
3) Living next to Hinrich: Hermann 38, farmer b. Oldenburg
wife Friedrica 33, b. Oldenburg, 7 kids all b. IL: Henry 13, Bernhard 10, Alvine 8, Emilie 6, Edward 4, William 2, and Anna 6/12. I hope this helps someone out there!
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