It looks like Johan (Johann) Hiebert is #180801 in the Grandma 3 CD, Helena Toews is #104310, Abraham Hiebert is #186873 and his wife Helena Siemens is #186874.
My mother is a Hiebert but I don't seem to be related to this Hiebert line (at least, not yet). My Aunt Marie Hiebert married Henry Siemens but he is not related to Helena Siemens (yet).
If you don't know about the Grandma 3 CD, e-mail me.
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