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dear ms king, did you not gat my aug `oi msg? here, in different words is it again. elizabeth hindsley chrisened 19 aug 1804 at st. mary lambeth, daur of john hindsley(sic) and elizabeth. lds call no 02454603. pg 76 hackney 1861 uk census james niven, 19 acton st, shows elizabeth hindley,widow, as 57 yr old grandmother. in june 1827 elizabeth hindley md john hindley at old church st pancras. 18 jan 1829 catherine ann hindley chr. btw 1861 census shows elizabeth as born stokes-newington. other children john and elizabeth were mary ann, chr 16 oct 1830, sophia e., chr 25 nov 1832, all old church, elizabeth chrt mary lambeth,18 dec 1835, and john valentine hindley chr 20 jan 1839 old church again. no twin listed. beware same name, diff person in i.g.i. on 4 aug 1850 catherine md james nixon