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Re: HUMES, James mar. Eliz. HAMILTON, PA.
Posted by: Malcolm Humes (ID *****2619) Date: June 04, 2006 at 12:51:51
In Reply to: Re: HUMES, James mar. Eliz. HAMILTON, PA. by Patricia Fulton of 416

Thank you for the reply. Your info matches what I have for James Humes (b. 1758) and Elizabeth Hamilton. I'm descendant through that line, but also through another Humes line that married in that was located nearby. I posted replies to each post in this thread last night and to a few others so I would recommend looking at them all.

I have 4 grandparents with PA lines dating back to at least mid 1700's so it gets quite interesting following the surnames they marry. For example, the Mary Humes that m. James Steele married into a Steele line that married into my mother's Jordan line and to the Bailey family that also married into my mother's side (Edward Crouch) and the Humes side (multiple marriages and to both Humes lines in my tree). It's quite clear many of the families knew each other in late 1700's and early 1800's. The Potter family also is married into the Crouch line in Paxtang and the Humes line in Bellefonte - and to the Jordan line in more than one way. So I've learned to look for as much info as I can on collateral lines as they tend to appear again and again.

My other (Robert & John) Humes line had a James Humes born 1754 not in my direct line but located very close by in PA. I suspect that records for the two James Humes of similar age and loacted a county apart are easily confused. I just noticed I have the same death date for both.

Samuel Humes of Lycoming County (b.1801, son of John Humes and Mary Duncan of Hanover Twp), the nephew of the other James Humes (b. 1754), married Rachel Bailey Humes, the grand-daughter of our James Humes and Elizabeth Hamilton. Rachel was his 2nd wife, and there was a son John by his first wife Anna Bailey, cousin or aunt of Rachel Bailey Humes. I found a migrated Hamilton Humes in another state last night in census records that I had never seen before that I think may be son of this John Humes, and there were other Hamilton Humeses in both Bellefonte and Jersey Shore Humes lines.

As far as our James Humes, I believe I have compiled a fair amnount of info on him in records of business transactions that tie him to other families repeatedly, especially to the Hamilton family. He appears in banking (Swatara and I believe one other bank) and also I believe had a land company with a James Hamilton. I think record books of these family businesses may be found in the White Chimneys microfilms of Slaymaker family papers at Lancaster County's Historical Society. Offhand I think there's a marriage connection to that family via the McIlvane line and I think perhaps another connection by marriage to the Humes family.

Here is more on my line from James and Elizabeth, via son Hamilton Humes:

Note: From the Commemorative Biographical Record of Central PA:
"...HAMILTON HUMES, his grandfather, was born in Lancaster county, Penn., January 7, 1784, and removed to Bellefonte in the spring of 1810. On April 1, 1819, he succeeded R. T. Stewart, as postmaster at Bellefonte, receiving his appointment from Return J. Meigs, postmaster-general under President Monroe, and held that office until January, 1833, under General Jackson, when he met the fate of Jackson's opponents in removal from office. His physical and mental organization eminently qualified him to become a useful and enterprising citizen. He established a large mercantile business, built mills, and among other pursuits was that of the manufacture of paper at Bellefonte, on which the Centre Democrat was printed for years. His attention to business, his skill, and his fidelity to his engagements secured public confidence. He was a great friend and patron of young men; kind to the indigent and unfortunate; they never called upon his benevolence in vain. He connected himself with the Presbyterian Church at an early age, gave liberally to its support, and served acceptably as an elder for many years before his death, which occurred February 28, 1859. He was a most devoted friend of his pastor, Rev. James Linn, who preached in the Presbyterian Church for over fifty years, and both families were intimately connected. He married Ann Elmira Bailey, who was a most excellent Christian lady, a native of Lancaster county, Penn., born September 28, 1784, and died in Bellefonte, March 31, 1862. Their children were: James Humes, who died in infancy; Mrs. Elizabeth McClure, of Lewisburg; Mrs. Rachel Humes, of Jersey Shore; W. H. Humes, of Bellefonte; Miss Caroline Humes, of Bellefonte; and Edward C. Humes (father of our subject), who died March 28, 1895; and who survived all the other children. Hamilton Humes and his wife were related to and connected with Lancaster county's most prominent families, with only a few of their descendants still living..."

Title: Commemorative Biographical Record of Central Pennsylvania
Author: J. H. Beers & Co.
Date: 1898

I also have notes on Hamilton Bailey Humes (1844-1913), the father of Samuel Humes (b. 1870), as follows:

Father Samuel Humes (1801-1859) died when Hamilton Bailey Humes was 15. Attended West Branch Academy (his father helped establish) then a year at Pennsylvania State College, then Columbia University in NY. Wanted to serve in Civil War but his mother discouraged him.

(I believe that since adding this note from my uncle I found a record of Civil War pension.)

Got Law degree from Columbia and had graduation photo taken by Matthew Brady, famous civil war photographer. Admitted to practice before New York State Supreme Court. Moved back to Jersey Shore PA to be cashier at bank his father helped establish. Established Gamble, Humes and White Banking firm in 1869. Changed to Humes Bank (1878?) which later became the Jersey Shore State Bank.

Used his own money to finance electric lights and trolley from Lock Haven to Jersey Shore and Williamsport. Director of Bald Eagle Valley Railroad. (search for "Bald Eagle Valley Railroad" for some interesting info on this as it relates directly to Bellefonte where Hamilton Humes and son E.C Humes were busy in many business interests.)

In 1911 traveled with wife and widowed daughter-in-law through Panama Canal to China, Bombay India and England.

Regarding your mention of Sarah HAMILTON mar. William Porter - I just came across an 1850 census for Sarah H. Porter in North East Ward Lancaster, age 52, shown as head of household but there is a 32 year old Samuel H. Porter (laywer) also in the same house, as well as a Mary Humes aged 60 in same household. That would seem likely related to the Hamiltons you mention, but the ages don't seem likely to fit as the two sisters who were daughters of James Hamilton as their mother would seem to be unlikely to have given birth in 1760's and 1790's. I'd like to take a closer look at the James Hamilton referenced as married to Margaret Boyd in late 1700s because of the ties to Slaymaker, who did some legal work for them on settlement of Margaret Boyd's parents. Slaymaker was a prominent lawyer in Lancaster area associated with Jasper Yeates with land next to the Boyds and apparently the parents of Margaret died and the estate wasn't settled until some 20 or more years later while a brother managed the land and took interests from his other sisters. The Slaymaker book says that Slaymaker took on settling the estate much to his regret when James Hamilton and Margaret Boyd pressed for their share of the land. That's the only reference to James Hamilton there, and it seemed likely it could be related to the Humes family's Hamilton line.

The Bailey line of Sadsbury, Lancaster had an uncle of Rachel Bailey Humes, Francis Bailey, that married an Elinor Miller in mid to late 1700s. That could be a lead on the Mary Miller we can't place. He was a prominent printer. I had some Miller and Hamilton info I copied at the LCHS that I haven't had a chance to match up yet.

I also can't place the Baileys prior to Robert Bailey (born circa 1706, m. Margaret McDill) but it is worth noting a historical connection between Patrick Hume of Scotland who was closely associated with a Robert Baillie whose son married Grizel Hume. There are famous stories of the persecution of Hume and Baillie, and Baillie was ready to head to the colonies in late 1600's before he was killed. That could explain the close relationship between PA Humes lines and Bailey lines but I can't find lists of the other children of Patrick, or connect to children of Grizel Hume Baillie.

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