The first John you mentioned(b. 1825 d. 1908 m. Mary) sounds like it could be a winner although I have the dates as b.1832 d. 1901, my dates could be wrong. I do have them as having 5 children though. Do you happen to know what the children's names are? Thank you for the info. . I'll check to see if I have anything on your John if you have any dates.
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