My daughter just sent me the information. I don't think the Clifford that was in the other message is your cousin.
I am your second cousin that you talked to before.
The family that you listed is not complete. Cliffords father was not Edward.
Clifford's father was William Henry Joll.
He was married to Alice Coughenour in Elizabeth and had five children.
William - Married Alice Large
John - married Emma Goettel (my father)
Clifford - Married Dorothy
Frances - married Charles Large
My grandfather was killed in a coal mine at the age of 29 and my grandmother Alice married Edward Joll, my grandfather's younger brother.
They had four children.
Virginia - Lewis Piccini
Martha - James Shoaf
Albert - Joan
Robert - Haddie
I am sorry I haven't gotten back to you, but if you email me at email@example.com I will be sure to help you with anything you need. Also I would be interested in hearing what you have traced back to England.
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