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Re: Joll's of Falmouth, Cornwall
Posted by: Mike Mason (ID *****6454) Date: November 12, 2002 at 07:48:11
In Reply to: Joll's of Falmouth, Cornwall by Linda Hope of 50

I was interested to see your references to John Borlace Joll of Falmouth.

There is an extensive and well documented pedigree of the Borlace / Borlase family which goes back to the Norman invasion, and in fact slightly prior, but one of the grey areas surrounds this connection with the Joll family at Falmouth in the late eighteenth and early nineteenth centuries.

The two families seem to have been connected for the best part of at least a hundred and fifty years.

William John Borlace (1853 – 1931) was the son of John Borlace (1810 – 1882) and Ellinor Thomas.

This John Borlace was born in Falmouth of John Borlace Joll and his wife Margaret (nee Grundry). He apparently ran away to the Royal Navy in 1823 and deserted in order to marry Ellinor, from Cove in Southern Ireland, subsequently rejoining the Royal Navy, serving with some distinction and earning a naval pension. It is believed he rejoined, having, for obvious reasons, dropped the Joll part of his name. Interestingly, his death in Devonport in 1882 was witnessed by Frederick Joll, named as his nephew. There are conflicting accounts of his first service with the RN, one account being that he went against his mother’s wishes, and another alleging that she arranged for him to be pressed into service, as she didn’t want him on hand. He seems to have been in character from a long line of alternate heroes and rogues, and amongst other anomalies in his papers it is quite possible they altered Ellinor’s age by a couple of years upward in order to marry. There was a daughter born in 1850, and quite possibly a son in 1836, who is proving hard to trace, notwithstanding the explanation of why the fourteen year gap between births.

There appears to have been some family rift at this time, and inevitably it was probably in connection with quite considerable estates in Cornwall. The property of Castle Horneck was left to a cousin rather than a son for some reason around about this time, and a stepson who subsequently came into the family and wrote a family history seems to have deliberately tinkered with some relationships, all also around this period. However, the Joll family, or at least some members seem to have kept contact with John and Ellinor, as amongst the papers there is a birth certificate for a son born to Frederick Joll and Mary (nee Eustice) in 1853, named as John Borlace.

The JBJ married to Margaret Grundry was trying to prove right to properties in Cornwall in 1830. He appears to have been born in 1778 to parents Roger Jowl and Jane Collings, married in Lanlivery on 1st October 1777. They had at least two other children, Francis born in 1804 and Ann born in 1806. They seem to have moved from Falmouth to the Devonport area in the early part of the nineteenth century.

For the name Borlace to be used as a middle name, one would normally expect there to have been a female Borlace marrying into the family at some not too distant point in the past.

I hope this may be of some interest to you – I am afraid that if it seems a little jumbled it is because I am presently out of England and not with the papers. I would certainly be interested if you could furnish me with details of the descendant line from John Borlace Joll and Margaret Grundy.

With best regards,

Yours Aye

Mike Borlace

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