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Katherina assumed parents &birth order
Posted by: Cori Hoag Date: May 26, 2001 at 18:33:06
In Reply to: Re: Katherina Kallis Friedenstal >N. Dakota by Sue Tolliver-Pompa of 35

Thanks for all your excellent information. I would love to correspond with you further about the descendants of Gottfried Kallis, your third-great grandfather. My email is

Meanwhile, I should just get busy and write some letters to some of the living descendants of Katherine Kallis Aichele so I can solve this mystery once and for all. Most of my Kallis info about the folks in Russia comes from the Ernst book. He does leave people out. For instance, he left out the Gottlieb, the oldest child of Andreas Kallis and Louise kuck, probably because the boy died as an infant. I have seen a few omissions here and there in the records. Perhaps, for some reason Katherine Kallis was not baptized (hard to imagine) or the church records were illegible or damaged.

At any rate, she was born August 12, 1865. There are a couple potential parents who could have had a child in 1865, but I eliminated most because it would have been pretty difficult for the mother to give birth with a normal 9-month pregnancy. And of course, I'm assuming that Katherine was born in wedlock, which means her last name came from the father (not mother).

The choices for her parents seemed to fit in with one of the sons of Johann Kallis and Anna Maria Hirshkorn. The candidates are:
1. Gottfried Kallis and Anna Maria Aichele
2. Jakob Kallis and Karolina Maier
3. Andreas Kallis and Louise Kuck

I eliminated couple #1 because Gottfried died in 1853.

I eliminated couple #2 based on the tight timing between the listed births of Karolina Maier Kallis' children in March 1864 and June 1866. There is a 2 year and 3 month gap there so anything is possible. However, Katherine's birth in August 1865 means her potential mother, Karolina, would have given birth to the next child, Michael Kallis, only ten months after the birth of Katherine. Possible but doesn't seem so likely.

I thought couple #3 was the best choice based on the timing of births for this couple. There is a 4 year+ gap in the listed births between the birth of Louid in October 1862 and the birth of Elisabetha in January 1867. There could have been some stillborn children or infant deaths in there, but they are not listed. It is hard to imagine not having a child in four years pre-birth control if they were actually living together. All of the listed children are female.

That is how I ended up with the assumption that Katherine Kallis Aichele's parents were Andreas and Louise Kuck Kallis. I hope to get a real confirmation on this. Will try to write to one of the descendants this Spring.

In the meantime, I would like to share other information with you on if you wish. Bye Cori


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