Saw your message - no definate immediate connection as far as I can see but the book I bought said to watch for occurences of 'family first names'.
My father was Joseph Kaye (Stainforth) - his father was Frederick Edward Kaye and we have another Walter Frederick brother of Joseph. The connection if any at all must be with Frederick Edwards father called Paul who died just before the 1881 census and left a family living in Hull. Were by chance any of 'your' Joseph Frederick brothers called Paul ?
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