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Re: Kaye Family of Woodsome
Posted by: richard king (ID *****9973) Date: May 11, 2010 at 12:41:20
In Reply to: Re: Paul KAYE (Holme/Holmfirth, Yorkshire) by Ian Goddard of 327

There appear to be several errors that are perpetuated in what might otherwise seem to be authoritative sources.

The Dorothy Kaye who married John Carvill in 1598 [usually noted as being of Nun Monckton] is frequently reported as the daughter of Robert Kaye, but I find her reported as the daughter of "John Kaye, of Woodsome, Esq." who "had issue John, Peter, Henry, William, Edward, Elizabeth, Anne, Mary, . . . " in William Wheater's The History of the Parishes of Sherburn and Cawood. I will probably have to buy the book, hoping that a Thomas follows Mary.

From Mrs. Lesley Whitelaw, Archivist of the Middle Temple, London, I have advice that a John Carvill, son and heir of John Carvill of Nun Monckton, Esq., who was admitted to the Middle Temple on 13th May 1618, but was not Called to the Bar. This is so late that it would seem to make him an unlikely husband for Dorothy. Mrs. Whitelaw further advises that there was a John Carvell admiited to the Middle Temple on 4th November 1588, and Called to the Bar on 29th October 1596. He was the son and heir of John Carvell of "Barwicke" [Berwick], Northumberland. The records of Middle Temple's Parliament have 36 references [probably routine administrative matters] to John Carvell between 1588 and 1632 when, I suspect, he probably died. Were he not one already, having been Called to the Bar would have probably made him a suitable husband for a daughter of that branch of the Kaye family.

From HDHFS I have: "The only mention of Carvill I have found at the moment is a Dorothea Carvill buried in 1666. She was a spinster of Denby Grange. [child of John Carvell and Dorothy?] Others from Denby Grange were from the Kay/e family. There is also mention of a Dorothy Carvill being left 10/- in the will of Adam Beaumont of Whitley Hall. Will dated 1655." Adam Beaumont died, age 25, in a 1655 battle of your Civil Wars, in his will referring to "my loving uncle Sir John Kaye," and leaving "to my brother in law Mr. John Ashton, my sister in law Mrs. Mary Ashton, and to Mrs. Dorothy Carvill each 10/- for rings."

Mrs. P.W. Hiden's Notes on Kay and Allied Families, Newport News, VA (1939), states that it "seems likely that Robert Kay of Woodsom in Yorkshire was ancestor of the Virginia immigrants James and William Kay." Thomas Carvill left Englands at some time prior to 1634, when his son Thomas was born in Cuba. He the emigrated, first to Virginia, and then Maryland, where he settled on the Eastern Shore, the site of Carvill Hall, a 2,000 acre plantation, owned by a succession of four John Carvills.


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