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Thank you for the response. I will follow up on some of your advice. I am a little confused though now because in the 1870 Census, Pat's father is listed as being James, which is also what I assumed Pat's middle name was since in old newspapers it has been printed more than once, "Patrick J. Killen", so I assumed it was James. I know you said that they are mislisted in the 1880 census as "Hillen", but there it lists his father's name as Denis. So now I am very confused on that point. Both accounts have "Mary" for his mother though. You may be right on his son and widow. The info I have on the birth of his son Marcus, is that he was alive and 15 months old when Pat died in 1891. I too, have his wife's name as Jessie Claribel Simsen, although I am starting to question the spelling of her maiden name, as possibly really being "Simpson" or "Simpsen". I have a very detailed newspaper article talking about Pat's death, and it frequently quotes his wife, but never mentions her name. There have been debates as to whether his brother Denny is older or younger than him too. I think he was in fact, older, because he started boxing earlier. I also have record of Pat having a much younger brother named Alexander, who if I am correct, was once arrested for murder, sententenced to death, and then later pardoned and released and I think he died single with no heirs. I know that pat's brother Denny had no children and was not married from his obituary in St. Paul. I am still hopeful to find relatives of Pat's via his sisters and their children, althought hat is always much more difficult b/c last names change. Thanks for the help.