Forgot to mention that Edward's Father and Mother (Thomas and Hannah) are my ggg grandparents and are buried in Purewa cemetary Auckland.
That Thomas Killip came out on the Jessie osbourne with his wife as well. Thomas had previously lived in Liverpool with his father, also Thomas. It was this last Thomas that was born in the Isle of Man around 1790 something. We are very close to finding the burial site of that Thomas in liverpool.
Bruce's connection with Edward is by "memory" only on the part of my uncle Sam, but he feels sure that he has that right. In any case it was certainly one of the brothers.
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